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  • TennCat
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 26

    #16
    Originally posted by Will Lavender
    I'd probably put Quickley in the "scorer" category at this point. Gets to the line consistently, has one of the best floaters I've ever seen a UK player have, and is one of the best free throw shooters we've ever had here. I think he and Maxey are both scorers.


    I agree with Will on this one. With time running down and the game on the line, I want the ball in IQ's hands because I believe he has the best chance of scoring. I love his confidence this year

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    • J.Jennings
      Banned
      • Oct 2014
      • 7005

      #17
      Originally posted by Will Lavender
      I'd probably put Quickley in the "scorer" category at this point. Gets to the line consistently, has one of the best floaters I've ever seen a UK player have, and is one of the best free throw shooters we've ever had here. I think he and Maxey are both scorers.


      Agreed but Maxey can go through a game having a off night then explode and hit a shot most kids just don't make, he is one of my favorite players we have had here under Cal, love his attitude and his game.


      As for floaters, Quickley still isn't on NCAA Wayne Turner level just yet but that could change we shock the world and win this thing...

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      • Joneslab
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 39604

        #18
        Originally posted by J.Jennings
        As for floaters, Quickley still isn't on NCAA Wayne Turner level just yet but that could change we shock the world and win this thing...
        Speaking of Wayne, he's an assistant coach at Seneca High School. My son's team played them twice this year as they're in the same district. They run some of the same traps and defenses we used to see in the late '90s at Kentucky.

        Turner actually works as a security guard at Atherton High School, where my son attends. Would love to see him on their coaching staff next year.

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        • J.Jennings
          Banned
          • Oct 2014
          • 7005

          #19
          Originally posted by Will Lavender

          Speaking of Wayne, he's an assistant coach at Seneca High School. My son's team played them twice this year as they're in the same district. They run some of the same traps and defenses we used to see in the late '90s at Kentucky.

          Turner actually works as a security guard at Atherton High School, where my son attends. Would love to see him on their coaching staff next year.
          Wayne is good dude, talked to him a few years ago via messenger of all places on a Boston Celtics group page on Facebook...

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          • PadCatFan
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 1130

            #20
            Experts saying SEC is down. So is Big 10/"14", Acc, Big Easr, etc...

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            • JFCats22
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 4210

              #21
              I’d like to change my seed prediction.

              no chance at a 2 or 3 if they lose this game.

              im going to predict a 4 or 5 now.

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              • 40bill
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 8451

                #22
                Still a three I believe. I thought they deserved a two, but won't happen now.

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                • Joneslab
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 39604

                  #23
                  Impossible to call it now. Still too much work left to do for UK now that we laid an egg last night. A home loss on March 3rd against a bad team where there are rumors the team is melting down from the inside is not good, to put it mildly. That could have reverberations all the way to Selection Sunday.

                  OTOH, if they come out Saturday and play well they could wash some of last night away. Hard for me to imagine that's going to happen, but maybe last night was a necessary thing.

                  Unfortunately as has been discussed a trillion times the SEC Tournament doesn't matter. Lunardi even said as much last night on the air. So they might have just one shot to redeem themselves, and it'll be a tough game on the road in a place that has at times not been kind to UK.

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                  • KCKUKFan
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 14228

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Will Lavender
                    A home loss on March 3rd against a bad team where there are rumors the team is melting down from the inside is not good, to put it mildly. That could have reverberations all the way to Selection Sunday.
                    I don't buy this, either.

                    The team that I watched on that "Journey" video from Saturday is not a team that is melting down from the inside. That sort of stuff does not happen in three days. We got up by seventeen, quit playing, got frustrated, started pointing fingers and pouting... we've all seen it happen at least a hundred times. Until I hear reason to think otherwise, that's all I'm chalking this up to. The rest is just static.

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                    • JFCats22
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 4210

                      #25
                      Originally posted by KCKUKFan

                      I don't buy this, either.

                      The team that I watched on that "Journey" video from Saturday is not a team that is melting down from the inside. That sort of stuff does not happen in three days. We got up by seventeen, quit playing, got frustrated, started pointing fingers and pouting... we've all seen it happen at least a hundred times. Until I hear reason to think otherwise, that's all I'm chalking this up to. The rest is just static.
                      You think Hagans and Richards getting into it, Hagans getting into with the SC coach, and Hagans refusing to go back into the game is "just static"???? I don't think it's Team Turmoil but it's definitely more than nothing

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #26
                        Originally posted by JFCats22

                        You think Hagans and Richards getting into it, Hagans getting into with the SC coach, and Hagans refusing to go back into the game is "just static"???? I don't think it's Team Turmoil but it's definitely more than nothing
                        Depends on how they come out of it.

                        It could be just a one-game thing. I certainly haven't seen anything this year that suggested there was turmoil, though it's clear Ashton Hagans has been having a very hard time recently.

                        But sometimes stuff like that can snowball. My post above was more about the timing than anything: if you have turmoil, you want it to be in November where it can get cleaned out of your system. Players fighting in early March isn't ideal.

                        Having said that, I was at the SEC Tournament the year Daniel Orton tried to fight everybody on the bench and had to be sent back to the locker room. I was actually sitting right behind the bench when that happened; I thought Orton and Josh Harrellson of all people were going to have to be separated.

                        Stuff happens inside teams that occasionally gets blown out of proportion when fans get to witness it.

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                        • JFCats22
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 4210

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Will Lavender

                          Depends on how they come out of it.

                          It could be just a one-game thing. I certainly haven't seen anything this year that suggested there was turmoil, though it's clear Ashton Hagans has been having a very hard time recently.

                          But sometimes stuff like that can snowball. My post above was more about the timing than anything: if you have turmoil, you want it to be in November where it can get cleaned out of your system. Players fighting in early March isn't ideal.

                          Having said that, I was at the SEC Tournament the year Daniel Orton tried to fight everybody on the bench and had to be sent back to the locker room. I was actually sitting right behind the bench when that happened; I thought Orton and Josh Harrellson of all people were going to have to be separated.

                          Stuff happens inside teams that occasionally gets blown out of proportion when fans get to witness it.
                          I totally agree that fans blow up things like this into bigger things than they really are. However, with Hagans I'm not sure it's not a big deal. Dude has been straight up garbage on the court for most of the past two months. There is clearly something going on with him - health, attitude, effort, NBA aspirations disappearing, whatever it is, something is happening. Maybe it finally exploded last night and that will be the end of it.

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                          • JFCats22
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 4210

                            #28
                            The loss last night was crushing for UK with the computers. Dropped to #30 in KenPom and dropped 7 spots in the NET to #21 overall. Last night cost us any chance at a 2 and I'm not sure we get back up to a 3 now unless we win at UF and win the SECT. Losing any of those is going to drop us further in the NET and they aren't giving a 3 seed to a team with a NET ranking of 20+

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                            • Joneslab
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 39604

                              #29
                              Originally posted by JFCats22
                              The loss last night was crushing for UK with the computers. Dropped to #30 in KenPom and dropped 7 spots in the NET to #21 overall. Last night cost us any chance at a 2 and I'm not sure we get back up to a 3 now unless we win at UF and win the SECT. Losing any of those is going to drop us further in the NET and they aren't giving a 3 seed to a team with a NET ranking of 20+
                              One thing about Kentucky is that we're surrounded in the NET with teams who have atrocious road records.

                              History says your road record means as much as any other metric, so I'm hoping that pulls Kentucky up above its NET.

                              Still don't think it matters this year. In a down field like this you might as well play all comers. It's not like we're trying to duck some juggernaut or something. There isn't a ton of difference between the 1s and the 4s and the 5s and the 10s this season.

                              It'd be nice if they somehow gave us a deserving seed but as I said, history has shown that kids sometimes play better with a chip on their shoulder. Getting jobbed by the committee has proven to not be a terrible thing for Kentucky the last few years.

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                              • KCKUKFan
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 14228

                                #30
                                Originally posted by JFCats22

                                You think Hagans and Richards getting into it, Hagans getting into with the SC coach, and Hagans refusing to go back into the game is "just static"???? I don't think it's Team Turmoil but it's definitely more than nothing
                                I'm sure you hope so, because it would embolden your sky is falling narrative.

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