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  • Matt Dillon
    Administrator
    • Oct 2014
    • 49630

    #16
    Originally posted by teamchemistry15

    Sarah Chester and her 13 year old daughter, Payton, are the last two passengers. Payton was on the same team as GiGi. Still no confirmation of the pilot's identity.
    The helicopter was piloted by Ara Zobayan.
    Philippians 4:11-4:13

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    • 40bill
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 8451

      #17
      I dont want to sound heartless...but although Bryant is the headline, there were a lot of folks that lost family in this accident....and although it is their job, the media in general loses sight of this.

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      • Matt Dillon
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 49630

        #18
        Originally posted by 40bill
        I dont want to sound heartless...but although Bryant is the headline, there were a lot of folks that lost family in this accident....and although it is their job, the media in general loses sight of this.
        I agree 100%, Bill. It's not just the media either. People that didn't know Kobe, had never met him or had any correspondence with him act like he was their best friend or a relative. Many people on Twitter and message boards are grieving and saying condolences for his survivors with nary a mention of the survivors of the others who lost their lives in the crash. I've never understood this. I have the same sympathy for the survivors of the other victims as I do for Kobe, no more or no less.
        Philippians 4:11-4:13

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        • 40bill
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 8451

          #19
          It is heartbreaking. One report is that three of the fatalities are a couple and their daughter. There are other children left behind.

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          • Dwight Schrute
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 18716

            #20
            Originally posted by Matt Dillon

            I agree 100%, Bill. It's not just the media either. People that didn't know Kobe, had never met him or had any correspondence with him act like he was their best friend or a relative. Many people on Twitter and message boards are grieving and saying condolences for his survivors with nary a mention of the survivors of the others who lost their lives in the crash. I've never understood this. I have the same sympathy for the survivors of the other victims as I do for Kobe, no more or no less.
            I mean, of course Kobe is going to command the attention. He was a transcendent figure and one of the most famous people on the planet.

            Planes and helicopters crash everyday and people lose their lives. It’s no less tragic but one of the most recognizable people in the world was killed. That’s going to command media attention.

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            • surveyor
              Administrator
              • Oct 2014
              • 14474

              #21
              Originally posted by 40bill
              It is heartbreaking. One report is that three of the fatalities are a couple and their daughter. There are other children left behind.
              John Altobelli, his wife and daughter. He was the Orange Coast College baseball coach.
              Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.

              Clint Eastwood

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              • Spiritof96
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 13503

                #22
                So very sad. I tend to believe the lie, that if you are young, healthy, and rich, living a low-risk lifestyle you are pretty much insulated from tragedy. It isn't really true and we are all vulnerable all the time.

                Gut-wrenching to lose whole families.
                Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                • Lighthouse
                  Gone But Never Forgotten
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 35962

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Blue Heaven

                  There are no guarantees in life.
                  There's only one I know of. If Jesus is our Lord and Savior and we come to this point in life, we have the guarantee of Heaven! Praying for the families of those involved.
                  John 3:3

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                  • Catatonic
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 2913

                    #24
                    Originally posted by 40bill
                    I dont want to sound heartless...but although Bryant is the headline, there were a lot of folks that lost family in this accident....and although it is their job, the media in general loses sight of this.
                    ​​​​​​
                    People die every minute in this country. We don't know their names either, because they weren't public figures.

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                    • Matt Dillon
                      Administrator
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 49630

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                      I mean, of course Kobe is going to command the attention. He was a transcendent figure and one of the most famous people on the planet.

                      Planes and helicopters crash everyday and people lose their lives. It’s no less tragic but one of the most recognizable people in the world was killed. That’s going to command media attention.
                      I'm referring to ordinary everyday people, like myself, more so than the media. Of course the media is all over it and rightfully so.
                      Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                      • Dwight Schrute
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 18716

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Matt Dillon

                        I'm referring to ordinary everyday people, like myself, more so than the media. Of course the media is all over it and rightfully so.
                        I think it’s natural to latch on to the ones you know. No different than 9/11 families feeling different about the day than someone like me who had no connection to it.

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                        • Matt Dillon
                          Administrator
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 49630

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                          I think it’s natural to latch on to the ones you know. No different than 9/11 families feeling different about the day than someone like me who had no connection to it.
                          By "ones you know", I assume you mean people you've heard of due to their fame. I didn't know Kobe, I just knew who he was.
                          Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                          • 40bill
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 8451

                            #28
                            Some sports fans remember the shock of Roberto Clemente.

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                            • teamchemistry15
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 7022

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Catatonic
                              ​​​​​​
                              People die every minute in this country. We don't know their names either, because they weren't public figures.
                              This. I don't want to sound like a jerk, but people die all over the country and world every single day and we don't pay attention to it because we don't know them, never met them, never watched them play a game, they didn't motivate us or inspire us, etc. Of course the other victims of the helicopter crash leave behind friends and family, and their death is equally as sad as Kobe and his daughter, but it's not the same. If I died in a single vehicle car crash tonight no one in Utah, California, Idaho, China, etc would be upset because I am just a guy. My friends, family, customers, etc would be upset, but that's it. If Peyton Manning died in a single vehicle car crash tonight it's a little bit different. Both deaths are sad and tragic, but when it's that big of a public figure it's going to get more attention.

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                              • Dwight Schrute
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 18716

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Matt Dillon

                                By "ones you know", I assume you mean people you've heard of due to their fame. I didn't know Kobe, I just knew who he was.
                                Well yeah. But I knew more about him than any of the others.

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