NBA Sources: One-and-Done Rule May be Coming to an End

[Joneslab]

KC killed this thread. I have nothing to say that he hasn't said.

But one thing about this team: they're not that good yet. I'd imagine if they roared out and crushed people fans would be pumped. They also aren't going to lose a whole lot to the NBA. This is a different deal from what we've seen with Cal.

[Joneslab]

Seems like our fan base is more divided now than ever before...........

Oh man, not even close.

I've been on these boards when there have been protests and boycotts. Fans taking ads out to get the coach fired. People telling other fans to stay away from Rupp.

And that was when we had plenty of traditional four-year players.

Cal's approval rating would have to be sky high. These debates we see online are along the line of fans complaining that Rick Pitino wasn't a good strategist or something. Most folks like Cal and want him to stay.

It's just that when you have a raw team like we do now, the flaws of the OAD model stick out like a sore thumb.

[Joneslab]

Yeah, but when that maximum talent flames out before the Final Four it makes you wonder. The fact is, and I think Cal is a great coach, the rest of the game has figured out how to play with him. This reloading of freshman every year is getting figured out by teams that have guys that are 90% as talented but have the experience to go along with it.

The problem with this point is that the team that won it that year, Duke, did so behind one-and-dones.

Freshmen can win titles. There's been enough evidence now that that's undeniable. You just have to have a little experience to go with them, and that's the mix Cal always tries to find. The reason it's tricky is because as soon as you start touting yourself as a coach who will try to get players to the league, everybody who comes here thinks they're ready for the league. Cal has ended up being burned from time to time by guys who should have stayed in school.

[Lighthouse]

You people are in for a rude awakening when Cal leaves. Kentucky basketball will be fine, of course, but we are NOT going to win like we do now.

According to who replaces Cal that could be correct for a couple years. When our new coach gets his system in and recruits players designed to fit it, I would expect the same results we've been accustomed to for years.

[George]

According to who replaces Cal that could be correct for a couple years. When our new coach gets his system in and recruits players designed to fit it, I would expect the same results we've been accustomed to for years.

But the point is that even among UK’s historically-winning ways, Cal’s run has been exceptional. The next guy might be winner, but even winning like Tubby, or even Pitino, will likely fall short of Cal’s record.

[Joneslab]

I feel like there are other things fans would miss badly with Cal. The guy has a showman's mentality, and that means something at a place like Kentucky.

But if you're an "all I care about is titles" type, then why watch any of the games except the national championship? If all that's acceptable to you in a season is winning it all, that's a pretty depressing place to be. Because historically UK has won a title about every nine years in the history of the program. Odds are you're going to be disappointed.

Incidentally some of my favorite teams didn't win the title. My favorite squad is the Tubby team that lost to UAB. My favorite tournament run by far is the Aaron Harrison run.

[justford]

I really pity the man that follows Cal.

[Joneslab]

I really pity the man that follows Cal.

If he wins the title in his first year he'll be fine.

[Lighthouse]

But the point is that even among UK’s historically-winning ways, Cal’s run has been exceptional. The next guy might be winner, but even winning like Tubby, or even Pitino, will likely fall short of Cal’s record.

That's a good possibility, but we were excited about Kentucky BB before and will be again. It will probably take some getting used to though.

[J.Jennings]

Oh man, not even close.

I've been on these boards when there have been protests and boycotts. Fans taking ads out to get the coach fired. People telling other fans to stay away from Rupp.

And that was when we had plenty of traditional four-year players.

Cal's approval rating would have to be sky high. These debates we see online are along the line of fans complaining that Rick Pitino wasn't a good strategist or something. Most folks like Cal and want him to stay.

It's just that when you have a raw team like we do now, the flaws of the OAD model stick out like a sore thumb.

Different kind of divide, not lynch mob fire the coach divide but "who cares" about the regular season the new has worn off "lets hope " they pan out and Cal can get it right before March. Until then no big deal we will watch the big games but it's the same ol song during these regular season games. Point is, fans just dont get as excited as they used to in the masses, at least not in my opinion,maybe Cal spoiled us or many hate the revolving door year in year out... ...

[J.Jennings]

The problem with this point is that the team that won it that year, Duke, did so behind one-and-dones.

Freshmen can win titles. There's been enough evidence now that that's undeniable. You just have to have a little experience to go with them, and that's the mix Cal always tries to find. The reason it's tricky is because as soon as you start touting yourself as a coach who will try to get players to the league, everybody who comes here thinks they're ready for the league. Cal has ended up being burned from time to time by guys who should have stayed in school.

The problem is Coach K can outcoach Cal and now he's out recruiting him, Cal is starting to lose his swag, seem like his act is getting old with some of these top players. Hell, maybe he need yo tell certain ones Kentucky is for them and explain why, reverse psychology not working as good as it once did...

[Joneslab]

Different kind of divide, not lynch mob fire the coach divide but "who cares" about the regular season the new has worn off "lets hope " they pan out and Cal can get it right before March. Until then no big deal we will watch the big games but it's the same ol song during these regular season games. Point is, fans just dont get as excited as they used to in the masses, at least not in my opinion,maybe Cal spoiled us or many hate the revolving door year in year out... ...

Fair enough.

But honestly I've seen "I don't are as much as I used to" on message boards for years. That isn't new. Saw it constantly in the Tubby era.

Thing is, these places (and Facebook, and Twitter) are good for people to come on and vent. One type of venting is just to put the coach on blast; but another is to come on and state how little you care and how things are different these days. I think it bothers fans that they don't care as much...but Cal didn't invent that. As people age and other priorities come in they tend to see teenage boys playing a game as not as important as it once was.

[SCBlu]

KC killed this thread. I have nothing to say that he hasn't said.

But one thing about this team: they're not that good yet. I'd imagine if they roared out and crushed people fans would be pumped. They also aren't going to lose a whole lot to the NBA. This is a different deal from what we've seen with Cal.

So true! This season, I see us winning the SEC, and making the Sweet 16. NEXT YEAR, WE WILL TAKE NO PRISONERS! (I can wait)

[J.Jennings]

Fair enough.

But honestly I've seen "I don't are as much as I used to" on message boards for years. That isn't new. Saw it constantly in the Tubby era.

Thing is, these places (and Facebook, and Twitter) are good for people to come on and vent. One type of venting is just to put the coach on blast; but another is to come on and state how little you care and how things are different these days. I think it bothers fans that they don't care as much...but Cal didn't invent that. As people age and other priorities come in they tend to see teenage boys playing a game as not as important as it once was.

I think we are going to be alright and play the underdog role this year which is fine by me. Alot of us that follow it closely (whole state lol)are still let down we missed our top targets, enthusiasm may have been different otherwise...

[J.Jennings]

Regardless what happens with NBA rule, Cal will trendset and figure it out, he not dumb, he understands basketball business and knows how to adapt. .