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  • Westtncat
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 2031

    #1

    Kentuckys terrible pitch

    “We had a lot of questions for them,” Lewis said. “It was fantastic to hear their pitch. Their pitch was basically that they don’t want to grow guys. They want to get them in, get them out and continue their reputation of getting guys to the NBA.”

    Lewis and Antoine quote from their visit in Lexington. I understand what they mean but if this is Kentucky's pitch I wish they would reword it.
  • Matt Dillon
    Administrator
    • Oct 2014
    • 49622

    #2
    Originally posted by Westtncat
    “We had a lot of questions for them,” Lewis said. “It was fantastic to hear their pitch. Their pitch was basically that they don’t want to grow guys. They want to get them in, get them out and continue their reputation of getting guys to the NBA.”

    Lewis and Antoine quote from their visit in Lexington. I understand what they mean but if this is Kentucky's pitch I wish they would reword it.
    There's probably no way of sugarcoating it. This appears to be the UK way now.
    Philippians 4:11-4:13

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    • KevinHall
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 6857

      #3
      Originally posted by Westtncat
      “We had a lot of questions for them,” Lewis said. “It was fantastic to hear their pitch. Their pitch was basically that they don’t want to grow guys. They want to get them in, get them out and continue their reputation of getting guys to the NBA.”

      Lewis and Antoine quote from their visit in Lexington. I understand what they mean but if this is Kentucky's pitch I wish they would reword it.
      Have you got a link to this? I would like to read the entire article.
      Kentucky fan since 1971.

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      • catfaninin
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 2016

        #4
        Originally posted by KevinHall

        Have you got a link to this? I would like to read the entire article.

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        • Matt Dillon
          Administrator
          • Oct 2014
          • 49622

          #5
          Originally posted by KevinHall

          Have you got a link to this? I would like to read the entire article.
          Here you go. It's about half way down the page.

          https://basketballrecruiting.rivals....l-package-deal
          Philippians 4:11-4:13

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          • J.Jennings
            Banned
            • Oct 2014
            • 7005

            #6
            I saw it yesterday, it is bs, makes a die hard UK fan whos about winning Championships blow through the roof....

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            • KevinHall
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 6857

              #7
              ^ Thanks to you both.

              What they said shouldn't be of any surprise. Cal takes the best and expect them to leave after a year. When one does come in that isn't ready after a year,IMO, they believe they are a failure and in some cases move on somewhere else ala Charles Matthews. I would rather there be some middle ground but its not going to change as long as Cal is here.
              I did read that NBA Comissioner Silver is open to the possibility of re-opening the one year thing the NBA now has in place. It sounded like it would be more to opening up the chance for high school players to go straight to the NBA and not adding another year to college.
              Kentucky fan since 1971.

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #8
                Cal hasn't wanted to "grow" players for more than 15 years now. That was clear starting in his last five or six years at Memphis.

                He did that at UMASS and then he saw that you can play this game a different way.

                Personally I would prefer to follow players as they mature...but we had that under Tubby and it wasn't as great as it sounds.

                The best-case in college basketball is a guy who can get phenoms and find a way to grow them. But to do that you have to talk guys into coming back to school like Roy Williams has. Cal won't play that game at all, as we all know.

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                • Blue Heaven
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 6283

                  #9
                  Originally posted by J.Jennings
                  I saw it yesterday, it is bs, makes a die hard UK fan whos about winning Championships blow through the roof....
                  Totally agree. I was a little shocked to read it. I agreed with most of the statement, but it was the part about growing the players that didn't sit well with me. I would still have taken who we have had/are getting in a New York Minute. I just wonder if Cal really did say that. It wouldn't surprise me if he did. This was the guy who said having six guys drafted in the first round of the draft the best moment in UK history. Umm, no Cal. It isn't.
                  Isaiah 5:20

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                  • Joneslab
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 39604

                    #10
                    I took the comment to mean that he doesn't want players who are raw and who need to have their games broken down and built up again.

                    He's trying to get immediate pros. I would argue that that's exactly what he should be doing at a place like Kentucky, where we were starved for mega recruiting success for years before Cal came. My only qualm is when some of those guys are borderline, try and find some way to make coming back for a second year not seem like a failure.

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                    • J.Jennings
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 7005

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Will Lavender
                      I took the comment to mean that he doesn't want players who are raw and who need to have their games broken down and built up again.

                      He's trying to get immediate pros. I would argue that that's exactly what he should be doing at a place like Kentucky, where we were starved for mega recruiting success for years before Cal came. My only qualm is when some of those guys are borderline, try and find some way to make coming back for a second year not seem like a failure.
                      Simply put, with borderline players he needs to work for Kentucky and sell them on coming back, its the least he can do.Cal makes millions and Kentucky pays him, give us fans what we want every now and then. Fans tune in for ratings, buy the merchandise, and puts tails in the seats.Without us, there is no 9 million a year....

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                      • catfaninin
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 2016

                        #12
                        Sounds like the one and done may be a thing of the past fairly soon.

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #13
                          Originally posted by catfaninin
                          Sounds like the one and done may be a thing of the past fairly soon.

                          http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/...PpO?li=BBnb7Kz
                          Maybe...but Silver has raged against it for years and nothing has been done.

                          His latest tirade is nothing new.

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                          • Joneslab
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 39604

                            #14
                            Originally posted by J.Jennings

                            Simply put, with borderline players he needs to work for Kentucky and sell them on coming back, its the least he can do.Cal makes millions and Kentucky pays him, give us fans what we want every now and then. Fans tune in for ratings, buy the merchandise, and puts tails in the seats.Without us, there is no 9 million a year....
                            The problem with this is that it makes the Cal years sound like a disaster or something.

                            If he were putting teams out there who were flailing around every year it would be one thing. But the guy has averaged 30+ wins a year since coming to Kentucky.

                            Not all fans are against the one-and-done thing. I think WCN is actually not a good illustration of what fans as a whole think, probably because our members skew older. Many fans don't mind it; some like it. There certainly isn't a revolt in the streets or anything.

                            And that's the case at all these schools who use one-and-dones. It isn't nearly as unpopular as you make it seem. Fans like the recruits coaches get under this system and they really like the wins.

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                            • J.Jennings
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 7005

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Will Lavender

                              The problem with this is that it makes the Cal years sound like a disaster or something.

                              If he were putting teams out there who were flailing around every year it would be one thing. But the guy has averaged 30+ wins a year since coming to Kentucky.

                              Not all fans are against the one-and-done thing. I think WCN is actually not a good illustration of what fans as a whole think, probably because our members skew older. Many fans don't mind it; some like it. There certainly isn't a revolt in the streets or anything.

                              And that's the case at all these schools who use one-and-dones. It isn't nearly as unpopular as you make it seem. Fans like the recruits coaches get under this system and they really like the wins.
                              I disagree, i read many Facebook posts and comments time and time again and notice people are A. Tired of one and done or B. Win more Ncaa titles if this is the way its going to be.

                              As for me personally, if you can send me to a desert in the military at age 18, then i should be allowed to go pro at 18 if im good enough. ...


                              Bottomline, Cal is who he is, not changing. As fans,we are who we are, we want more titles and feel players coming back more could help us accomplish that. ...

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