ESPN analyst has several UK players in NBA Draft update, but the Harrison twins

[Joneslab]

But this team isn't a new team. I think that's the point with Andrew. He was the point guard on a team that was 40 minutes from a national title.

The difference this year is that he has a freak behind him that you can put in if he isn't playing well.

I think Kentucky has probably dodged some bullets in the Cal era but that goes for every team. Does Duke win the title with Scheyer and Nolan Smith if that field isn't so down? And if they don't win that title, then their record over the last decade in the NCAA Tournament is pretty scary. Kansas needs a miracle three to win a title or Self's whole tenure looks totally different.

Everybody has to find a little luck somewhere in this sport.

[DA#23]

That's very true, but we aren't fans of Dook or Kansas.

We're UK fans.

Wait a minute, that isn't true even if we were Dook or Kansas fans. You mention in game happenings. I mention Terrence Jones in a situation that boils down to decision making, maturity, and...curfew?

Not the same at all. The injuries are, though. Neither one will prevent us from winning a championship, even as much as I like Nerlens.

So I'm saying that when Cal or anyone else says we worry too much, our comments are inane, etc....that isn't the absolute case. I am saying, very simply, that we have to control the things we can and outwork others in scenarios where those things can't be controlled.

If Andrew isn't great at any physical aspect or at shooting or dribbling with speed, etc. then he must become great at bringing his better games all the time and his best games when the stage is brightest. He must concentrate. He must lead. He must wipe that silly scowl off of his mug when Cal tells him something important. Quit pouting, it's too expensive.

[Joneslab]

I think there were probably things covered up with that Jones issue. Kentucky basketball probably has a fixer who's responsible for cleaning up situations like that.

But it was the same when Pitino was here. His players rarely got in trouble publicly. But everybody's heard stories.

I think for the most part Cal has brought in pretty good kids. These players aren't normal in that they've been bred to play professional basketball. They've gone to prestigious basketball schools for the most part, they've been coddled on the AAU circuit--they aren't normal. When this much money is on the line it doesn't make sense that you'd be a knucklehead for your year in college. It's only a few months: don't spoil it.

But you know there've been some things happen that we don't know about, and never will.

That's not luck; that's just kind of the normalcy of college athletics.

[DA#23]

Andrew needs to quit worrying about the Ulis talk, relish having him as a teammate, and simply play hard. If he does that and hits a shot or two, then he's a very good college pg.

[UKBoo]

Ulis has played the point better than Andrew. That statement should not take a thing away from Andrew! Ulis has out-performed the starting point guard of last year's Championship game. And Andrew has outperformed his last year's self for most of this year. I get on Andrew, or Aaron or any one of the other players for play in a particular game. It's not to knock them down, it's because I want them to do better. Why I think biaching and moaning about it will help, I don't know. It's no different than the passenger breaks not working, yet we still pump the heck out of them.

Ulis has been a focus freak so far this year. You rarely see a kid fresh out of high school that has that type of focus. It isn't a know on Andrew that he hasn't developed it as of A YEAR AND A HALF past high school.

Andrew will be fine.

[Joneslab]

Ulis has played the point better than Andrew. That statement should not take a thing away from Andrew! Ulis has out-performed the starting point guard of last year's Championship game. And Andrew has outperformed his last year's self for most of this year. I get on Andrew, or Aaron or any one of the other players for play in a particular game. It's not to knock them down, it's because I want them to do better. Why I think biaching and moaning about it will help, I don't know. It's no different than the passenger breaks not working, yet we still pump the heck out of them.

Ulis has been a focus freak so far this year. You rarely see a kid fresh out of high school that has that type of focus. It isn't a know on Andrew that he hasn't developed it as of A YEAR AND A HALF past high school.

Andrew will be fine.

Yep.

There are two discussions here to me.

One is about the NBA. I don't think Andrew is up to snuff in terms of that discussion. Not sure he'll ever be. He was born with the great gift of height and bulk, but his body size is also a weakness. It's made him less athletic, and it's made him be able to rely on just bullying people--and because of that, some parts of his game have suffered a little.

The second discussion is about how good Andrew is at Kentucky. And in that part of the dynamic Andrew is okay. Not great, not all-American, but serviceable and at times far more than serviceable. There's a long list of point guards Kentucky's had that have led this team to very good seasons but who just weren't NBA-ready.

[teamchemistry15]

The second discussion is about how good Andrew is at Kentucky. And in that part of the dynamic Andrew is okay. Not great, not all-American, but serviceable and at times far more than serviceable. There's a long list of point guards Kentucky's had that have led this team to very good seasons but who just weren't NBA-ready.

I was just talking to a friend about this the other day. Andrew this year is a lot like Mike Hartline was his last year. Control the pace, manage the game, and dont screw up. Like you said earlier, the less we hear his name the better he is playing. He is a very good college PG and has the potential to be a great one. His name wont be called a lot in games because if he has eight points, six will be from free throws and he just doesnt turn the ball over. What could make him turn the corner is his mental approach. If he gets to the point where he can attack the basket and look to finish instead of looking to get fouled, he could tack on another six points to his average. He drives to get fouled instead of driving to score.

[UKBoo]

See, I think Andrew could easily be an NBA point guard. He's not going to be a Wall type point guard and the more he tries, the further away from the league he will be. As has been pointed out, he is big and strong. but he isn't lateral quick and he doesn't come off the floor fast enough or high enough. As will pointed out, his strength is his weakness. Yet he can handle the ball extremity well for his size. He can make the mid range shot and he can set up others when he wants to. If he focused on being a play maker, increased his lateral quickness, then added a more consistent three point shot, I think he could easily be a serviceable NBA player.