Anthony white said he thinks Jon gruden

[bthaunert]

Care to elaborate? just curious who you think would be better ? I like sumerall, but jon gruden and his connections are very attractive . If jon wants to be in the sec why not Kentucky.

1. He's 62 years old
2. He's coached 3 seasons of football in the last 17 years (22-31 in those 3 seasons)
3. Since he went to the Super Bowl in 2002, he has coached 9 seasons. In only 3 of those he had a winning record.
4. In those 9 seasons, he went 67-82
5. He hasn't coached college football since 1989

I'm trying to figure out what is attractive about any of that.

[bthaunert]

There will be tons of opinions on who we should go after. I am just assuming Barnhart has Sumrall penciled in as his first call, and we could certainly do worse. I think Gruden might be worse. He built his reputation off one Super Bowl, but has really done nothing remarkable as a HC since. I also don’t agree that we need to go the Josh Huepel (sp)/Mike Leach throw it 50 times a game route either. We need a coach who will stay out of his OC’s way though. I think that’s largely been Stoops downfall. I think a guy like Sumrall would know better.

If I'm a betting man, when Stoops leaves, it comes down to Brad White and Jon Sumrall.

[Matt Dillon]

If I'm a betting man, when Stoops leaves, it comes down to Brad White and Jon Sumrall.

The thought of coach White being our next coach isn't all that attractive to me. We have a defensive guy now as our HC plus some of coach White's def. schemes leave me wondering.

[Trueblujr]

The thought of coach White being our next coach isn't all that attractive to me. We have a defensive guy now as our HC plus some of coach White's def. schemes leave me wondering.

Yeah, I can't see White being the best option either. I know Sumrall is in that defensive minded coaching category, but at least he's been proving himself at another level and seems to have adopted a pretty good offensive philosophy along the way, or at least he's found some good coordinators and hasn't hogtied them.

[bthaunert]

The thought of coach White being our next coach isn't all that attractive to me. We have a defensive guy now as our HC plus some of coach White's def. schemes leave me wondering.

By no means do I think he's the best option....I just think Mitch will really consider him for the position.

[Sjslhill]

This is what I said: I do think our QBs would be much better with the mental side of playing the position. I believe one could infer that I believe Gruden is a good QB coach, maybe even a 'guru'. However, I agree that he would not be my pick, either.

One reason: I am becoming convinced that UK pursuing running a 'pro style' (wide zone, lots of passing, lots of reads to make, etc.) offense is a losing proposition. It will be very rare for us to have the requisite talent on offense to run it effectively. OTOH, I think we could consistently recruit and run a RPO-based attack (maybe similar to the Eagles) without needing NFL ready QB, WRs, RBs and OL. Since few of the very top teams run that type of offense, we should be able to be successful recruiting to that system. We all have seen how difficult it is to defend an offense with a true DT QB. Just one more reason I don't think Gruden would be my choice - he would not run anything other than his pro scheme and I don't think we'll ever have the talent to run it and beat the upper echelon of SEC teams. Just my $0.02.

Sorry, I misread your post. I’m old. ?

[Los Gatos]

By no means do I think he's the best option....I just think Mitch will really consider him for the position.

I expect Mitch to consider him for the position. UK owes him a serious interview if he applies.

[teamchemistry15]

The thought of coach White being our next coach isn't all that attractive to me. We have a defensive guy now as our HC plus some of coach White's def. schemes leave me wondering.

Agreed. There's no sense in rinsing and repeating. I appreciate Coach White and all he has done, but it seems his philosophy is similar to Stoops. That style of football just doesn't get it done in today's game.

Count me out on Gruden, as well. I much prefer a young coach on his way up than an older guy trying not to become irrelevant.

[40bill]

Well guys I imagine Coach White will be interviewed and imagine he will leave if he doesn't get the head job. Hamdan is of course out of the question. (I would imagine).
Gruden is this gens Bill Parcell. He may even toy with the media and school...he always seemed to really love the spotlight.
I hope Sumrall has the same yearning for this job as a Lotta folk do for him.

Just to point out though:
Florida is about 2 losses from letting Napier go.l
If Alabama doesn't make the 12 team playoff they are lslikely in the market.
the coach of Indiana is apparently a miracle worker.

When we talk about football coaches us as fans have champagne tastes and beer budgets. I almost imagine our 'search' will be two names know and a lot of 'who in the world?' guys.

[teamchemistry15]

Well guys I imagine Coach White will be interviewed and imagine he will leave if he doesn't get the head job. Hamdan is of course out of the question. (I would imagine).
Gruden is this gens Bill Parcell. He may even toy with the media and school...he always seemed to really love the spotlight.
I hope Sumrall has the same yearning for this job as a Lotta folk do for him.

Just to point out though:
Florida is about 2 losses from letting Napier go.l
If Alabama doesn't make the 12 team playoff they are lslikely in the market.
the coach of Indiana is apparently a miracle worker.

When we talk about football coaches us as fans have champagne tastes and beer budgets. I almost imagine our 'search' will be two names know and a lot of 'who in the world?' guys.

Sumrall is my number one choice if Stoops is gone after this year. Options two and three would be Will Stein and Brian Hartline.

[BlueHeaven]

Sumrall is my number one choice if Stoops is gone after this year. Options two and three would be Will Stein and Brian Hartline.

I like it. The offensive philosophy needs a complete 180.

[teamchemistry15]

I like it. The offensive philosophy needs a complete 180.

Especially with how the game has changed. You have to be able to score and no five star kid wants to go play a keep away, time of possession game.

[Catsrock]

I like it. The offensive philosophy needs a complete 180.

Sounds solid to me as well. Plus it’s a list of candidates rather than just a “Stoops is awful” statement. I still root for UK every week. If we somehow get things cooking that’s fantastic. But if this is a 3-9 season we just gotta start fresh.

[teamchemistry15]

Sounds solid to me as well. Plus it’s a list of candidates rather than just a “Stoops is awful” statement. I still root for UK every week. If we somehow get things cooking that’s fantastic. But if this is a 3-9 season we just gotta start fresh.

Agreed. If he won eight games this year I would be arguing for him to return. No matter who the coach is, I'm rooting for nothing but success. He's over a decade in, so two seasons in a row below .500 is inexcusable. Our "down" year should be six or seven wins at this point. Anything five wins or under this year and, IMO, he needs to go.