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  • Bourbonman
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 330

    #1

    Michigan State HC Position Open

    While we’ve lived through many challenges (or maybe only conversations and speculation) one of my fears has always been Stoops being lured into the Big10. It’d be easier for him IMO. He’s from that part of the world. Hope they fill this fast with someone else. UGH.
  • Old School
    Administrator
    • Oct 2014
    • 2218

    #2
    They hired Dantonio away from Cincinnati, and I think they will likely try to land Cincinnati's current coach as his replacement. I don't think Stoops would be interested in the Michigan State job, at least not at this point.

    Do you remember who was Dantonio's predecessor as Michigan State's coach? Hint: he went 8-5, 5-7, 5-7, and 4-8 in his four seasons there. Second hint: He lost to Kentucky in his last season elsewhere before going to Michigan State.

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    • Matt Dillon
      Administrator
      • Oct 2014
      • 49610

      #3
      Originally posted by Old School
      They hired Dantonio away from Cincinnati, and I think they will likely try to land Cincinnati's current coach as his replacement. I don't think Stoops would be interested in the Michigan State job, at least not at this point.

      Do you remember who was Dantonio's predecessor as Michigan State's coach? Hint: he went 8-5, 5-7, 5-7, and 4-8 in his four seasons there. Second hint: He lost to Kentucky in his last season elsewhere before going to Michigan State.
      John Smith.
      Philippians 4:11-4:13

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      • Matt Dillon
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 49610

        #4
        Originally posted by Bourbonman
        While we’ve lived through many challenges (or maybe only conversations and speculation) one of my fears has always been Stoops being lured into the Big10. It’d be easier for him IMO. He’s from that part of the world. Hope they fill this fast with someone else. UGH.
        It appears that UC's coach will be Dantonio's replacement. If so, and I'll probably get raked over the coals for mentioning this, would UC want coach Gran back, and would he be interested in going back?
        Philippians 4:11-4:13

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        • SBCatMan
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 1765

          #5
          Originally posted by Matt Dillon

          It appears that UC's coach will be Dantonio's replacement. If so, and I'll probably get raked over the coals for mentioning this, would UC want coach Gran back, and would he be interested in going back?
          That was my first concern when hearing the news last night. But, I do not think he would go. If Gran wanted to be a head coach, he could have done so long ago.

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          • Bourbonman
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 330

            #6
            Originally posted by Matt Dillon

            It appears that UC's coach will be Dantonio's replacement. If so, and I'll probably get raked over the coals for mentioning this, would UC want coach Gran back, and would he be interested in going back?
            A domino impact such as this is also troublesome. Layer Marrow’s name into this mix. I only hope they are all pleased with the progress they’ve made at UK, in a school that has struggled for consistency for so long and want to put their stamp on history by helping it rise to the top of the SEC, the best football conference in the country. They’ll be legends our great-grandchildren will read about. GO CATS!

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            • Old School
              Administrator
              • Oct 2014
              • 2218

              #7
              Originally posted by Matt Dillon

              John Smith.
              Yes.

              He wasn't any better at any of his later stops.

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              • Old School
                Administrator
                • Oct 2014
                • 2218

                #8
                Originally posted by Matt Dillon

                It appears that UC's coach will be Dantonio's replacement. If so, and I'll probably get raked over the coals for mentioning this, would UC want coach Gran back, and would he be interested in going back?
                Not a fun possibility to ponder.

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                • Old School
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 2218

                  #9
                  A comparison of the rankings of Kentucky's and Michigan State's recruits this year from Ohio and Michigan:

                  Ohio

                  Rivals rankings:

                  Kentucky: #4, 8, 11, 21, 22, 23

                  Michigan State: #16, 20, 46, 51, 55

                  24/7 rankings:

                  Kentucky: #4, 8, 10, 19, 22, 39

                  Michigan State: #20, 21, 40, 42, 50, 51, 55

                  Michigan

                  Rivals rankings:

                  Kentucky: #1, 17, 26

                  Michigan State: #12, 18, 20

                  24/7 rankings:

                  Kentucky: #1, 11, 16

                  Michigan State: #15, 20, 22

                  24/7 ranks Kentucky's incoming class #23 in the nation, with Michigan State at #43. Rivals says Kentucky's is #21 and Michigan State's is #39.

                  Rivals says Kentucky's class is #8 in the SEC and Michigan State's is #10 in the Big Ten (Kentucky's would be #5, or #4 if Drennen pushes them past Nebraska). 24/7 says Kentucky's class is #9 in the SEC (up from 12 last year), Michigan State's is #10 in the Big Ten (down from #7 last year) (and again, Kentucky's would be #5, or #4 if Drennen pushes them past Nebraska).

                  Kentucky is 32-20 the last four years. Michigan State is 27-24. Kentucky had a better record in three of the past four seasons. In the past four seasons Michigan State went to the Holiday, Redbox, and Pinstripe Bowls (staying home one year) while Kentucky went to the Gator, Music City, Citrus and Belk bowls.

                  Number of wins in the past four years against P5 teams that finished with a record better than 7-6:

                  Michigan State: 6 (Indiana, Wake Forest, Penn State, Michigan, Penn State, Washington State)

                  Kentucky: 8 (South Carolina, Florida, Mississippi State, Missouri, Penn State, Louisville twice, Virginia Tech - four of those wins were on the road, and two were at neutral sites)

                  (In the past four years, Nebraska has beaten one P5 teams that finished better than 7-6: MInnesota, back in 2016.)
                  Last edited by Old School; 02-05-2020, 11:04 PM.

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                  • Old School
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 2218

                    #10
                    Mark Dantonio gave up his coaching job. He said he wanted to spend more time with family.

                    In other news, Bobby Petrino took a head coaching job. He said he wanted to spend more time with family.

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                    • Uncle Dave
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 1979

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Old School
                      Mark Dantonio gave up his coaching job. He said he wanted to spend more time with family.

                      In other news, Bobby Petrino took a head coaching job. He said he wanted to spend more time with family.
                      Hold on a second...I'm getting really confused over here.

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                      • Spiritof96
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 13503

                        #12
                        UK is now a better job the MSU. (way better) I'm not worried.
                        Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                        ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                        Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                        No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                        RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                        • Old School
                          Administrator
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 2218

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Uncle Dave

                          Hold on a second...I'm getting really confused over here.
                          You know, the guy who hires all those family members to be on his staff, maybe in part because others don’t want to work with him...

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                          • Old School
                            Administrator
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 2218

                            #14
                            Rivals updated after yesterday and has Kentucky #20 in the nation, Michigan State #39.

                            Kentucky is right between Florida State and Notre Dame. Florida State is somehow just ahead of Kentucky, even though both have 8 4* kids, but only Kentucky has a 5* kid. Similarly, North Carolina lands just ahead of Kentucky, with 9 four star kids (zero 5*) vs 8 4*s and a 5* for Kentucky.

                            A top 20 recruiting class is so far from where the program was under Joker (and others).

                            Rivals has the Wildcats 8th in the SEC, passing South Carolina.

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                            • Blue Heaven
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 6283

                              #15
                              Good times guys. Soak it up.
                              Isaiah 5:20

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