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  • SBCatMan
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 1765

    #1

    Another MCB Question

    This probably doesn't deserve its own thread, but ...

    We debated the wisdom of going for two to death in the game thread, and the consensus seems to be that it was the right call. And, I would agree. We also discussed the call on Snell and the targeting call.

    But, here is something very curious to me which has received virtually no attention at all -- what about that weird onside kick attempt? Agreed, chances of recovering an onside kick are slim -- what? -- maybe 1 in 10 or something ... especially when the other team knows it is coming. But, that mid-range pooch kick -- we had pretty close to a zero chance of recovering that. Am I missing something? What was up with that?
  • Westtncat
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 2031

    #2
    I am dumbfounded that people think that was the right call? It lost the game, it was the wrong call. Why put the game on the line when you dont have to? If it were OT then maybe. Anything can happen in OT. I just dont think you lose a game when you have other options.

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    • Spiritof96
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 13503

      #3
      Originally posted by Westtncat
      I am dumbfounded that people think that was the right call? It lost the game, it was the wrong call. Why put the game on the line when you dont have to? If it were OT then maybe. Anything can happen in OT. I just dont think you lose a game when you have other options.
      Didn't fans complain all year that we, "Played not to lose" and that, "we weren't aggressive enough"? Well, CMS played for the win not the tie.

      At the time I didn't like the call. After sleeping on it, our d looked like it was hanging on by their finger tips the whole game. They have had a GREAT red zone defense all year, we didn't. Without Benny we were one dimensional... and on and on.

      It may not have been the "right" call, but it was a "fine" call.
      Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
      ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
      Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
      No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
      RIP: Charlie Munger​

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      • RV
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 1619

        #4
        Plays that fail are never the right call.

        ... Anonymous UK Football Fan

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        • Westtncat
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 2031

          #5
          Originally posted by RV
          Plays that fail are never the right call.

          ... Anonymous UK Football Fan
          It was the wrong call because it forced a loss when you didnt have to. I have rarely seen that call in that situation.

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          • johnkyblue
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 4418

            #6
            I saw WKU beat us with that call, but that was a fake. SJ just put that ball on the wrong shoulder, or we'd be ecstatic.

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            • fastkat
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 629

              #7
              Originally posted by Spiritof96

              They have had a GREAT red zone defense all year, we didn't. Without Benny we were one dimensional... and on and on.

              .
              That^

              We have very little chance to win in an OT situation without Benny

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              • Catsrock
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 5560

                #8
                Originally posted by Westtncat
                I am dumbfounded that people think that was the right call? It lost the game, it was the wrong call. Why put the game on the line when you dont have to? If it were OT then maybe. Anything can happen in OT. I just dont think you lose a game when you have other options.
                Each to his own on preferred strategy there--and personally I haven't said it was the right call. But the statement that the call lost the game is simply incorrect. Not completing the 3 yard pass lost the game. The play could have worked which means it gave us a chance to win. Possibly even as good a chance as we would have had in OT. Snell would still have been out and SJ would have been just as hurt in OT.

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                • KevinHall
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 6857

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Westtncat
                  I am dumbfounded that people think that was the right call? It lost the game, it was the wrong call. Why put the game on the line when you dont have to? If it were OT then maybe. Anything can happen in OT. I just dont think you lose a game when you have other options.
                  And if that pass was complete you would have said it was a great call. OK, now carry on.............
                  Kentucky fan since 1971.

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                  • TrueblueCATfan
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 16268

                    #10
                    I would have gone for OT..but that is me personally.....that is why I sit at home and watch the games on TV and Mark Stoops is the coach.....he made the call and I can live with it

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                    • johnkyblue
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 4418

                      #11
                      It's also being said that the DB was quite a bit early on that pass.

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #12
                        You go for 2 one hundred times out of one hundred there. It wasn't just the right call; it was the only logical call.

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                        • Spiritof96
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 13503

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Will Lavender
                          You go for 2 one hundred times out of one hundred there. It wasn't just the right call; it was the only logical call.
                          I don’t know about “only logical choice”. Choosing to extend the game is at least a reasonable choice.
                          Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                          ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                          Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                          No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                          RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                          • Westtncat
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 2031

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Will Lavender
                            You go for 2 one hundred times out of one hundred there. It wasn't just the right call; it was the only logical call.
                            Thats why we lost. It makes sense to you to lose a game on one play when you dont have to? This has noting t do with the play working or not. Of course if the play worked I would be happier but still doesnt mean it was the best choice. Our passing was very subject in that game. Johnson was pretty inaccurate but thats not even the issue. We didnt HAVE to lose at least not there. You let the game force you into decisions that cause you to either win or lose, you dont force yourself to lose. We had almost 100% chance of NOT LOSING. In OT with the kicker we have anything is possible.

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                            • 40bill
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 8451

                              #15
                              You know, it was just one of those things. In all fairness, here's how I see it:
                              our defense was gassed.
                              Our defense stopped NW a few times because of some really crazy calls by a normally top notch coaching staff.
                              We had no dependable running game.
                              Stephen would have run it with two broken arms and one leg...but the kid was hurting huge.
                              Our receivers had Butterfinger hands all night long.
                              Our o line was simply overmatched.

                              I think it was absolutely the right call IF WE WANTED TO WIN....

                              AND....
                              For really the first time since they've been here I felt our coaching staff pulled everything together and turned into a Power 5 school coaching staff.

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