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  • catfaninin
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 2016

    #1

    Give Me the Confidence…….

    Really good article about this years football team. How we view it and how should we view it. One stat to me was very interesting. They are 5-2 and yet have been outscored this season. Of course 45-7 games will make that happen quickly.


  • RV
    Administrator
    • Oct 2014
    • 1619

    #2
    Several good things are happening for UK football. Consider these facts. Our Cats are bowl eligible for the second year in a row, currently 6-2 this season, 13-6 in their last 19 games, 7-5 in their last 12 SEC games, 7-1 in the last 8 close games (decided by touchdown or less) and 9-2 in their last 11 home games. There are reasons to think UK football is in a better place and isn't the same program it used to be.

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    • Uncle Dave
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 1979

      #3
      Originally posted by RV
      Several good things are happening for UK football. Consider these facts. Our Cats are bowl eligible for the second year in a row, currently 6-2 this season, 13-6 in their last 19 games, 7-5 in their last 12 SEC games, 7-1 in the last 8 close games (decided by touchdown or less) and 9-2 in their last 11 home games. There are reasons to think UK football is in a better place and isn't the same program it used to be.
      They're definitely a major work in progress. The culture is slowly changing. The guys and coaches are learning "how" to be a winning program. Winning ugly seems to be part of the learning curve.

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      • boomdaddy
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 675

        #4
        Am I the only Kentucky fan that is wondering when UK will be on a level playing field, when it comes to officials? Or, am I just paranoid? I get the fact that the Cats had 4 fumbles and maybe should have been only 3. But why is one team allowed to hold all game and the officials look the other way? Do they ever have to answer for their actions? Or are they like supreme court judges, where they are above rebuke?

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        • Lighthouse
          Gone But Never Forgotten
          • Oct 2014
          • 35962

          #5
          Originally posted by boomdaddy
          Am I the only Kentucky fan that is wondering when UK will be on a level playing field, when it comes to officials? Or, am I just paranoid? I get the fact that the Cats had 4 fumbles and maybe should have been only 3. But why is one team allowed to hold all game and the officials look the other way? Do they ever have to answer for their actions? Or are they like supreme court judges, where they are above rebuke?
          It might help you understand the officials if you also watch what UK gets away with. On several plays, UK held with no flag and on two occasions our DB's got away with grabbing a UT jersey during a pass play. The officials are certainly not perfect, but they had no direct influence on the outcome of the game.
          John 3:3

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          • boomdaddy
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 675

            #6
            Originally posted by Lighthouse

            It might help you understand the officials if you also watch what UK gets away with. On several plays, UK held with no flag and on two occasions our DB's got away with grabbing a UT jersey during a pass play. The officials are certainly not perfect, but they had no direct influence on the outcome of the game.
            ........Except for the Florida game, this season at Kroger field.

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            • catfaninin
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 2016

              #7
              Originally posted by boomdaddy
              Am I the only Kentucky fan that is wondering when UK will be on a level playing field, when it comes to officials? Or, am I just paranoid? I get the fact that the Cats had 4 fumbles and maybe should have been only 3. But why is one team allowed to hold all game and the officials look the other way? Do they ever have to answer for their actions? Or are they like supreme court judges, where they are above rebuke?
              I would say very paranoid. The old "the officials are out to get us " argument is not only the oldest but also the worst story in the book. I'm sure it does happen from time to time but I believe 99.9% of the time the officials could care less who wins or loses. They call what they see regardless of who it's against. Do they miss things? Sure they do. Both ways. But fans choose to overlook what their team does, and notice tenfold what the other team does.

              I am assuming the Florida reference is to the hold on Haynes. That happened right in the middle of the field in clear view of everyone and was very clearly a holding penalty. One that you just can't do. And also one that has to be called. If it were not called then the Florida fans should be saying "why do they get by with that?"

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              • RV
                Administrator
                • Oct 2014
                • 1619

                #8
                Originally posted by catfaninin
                ...
                I am assuming the Florida reference is to the hold on Haynes. That happened right in the middle of the field in clear view of everyone and was very clearly a holding penalty...
                Last edited by surveyor; 10-31-2017, 08:55 AM. Reason: fixed quote brackets

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                • catfaninin
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 2016

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RV
                  Originally posted by catfaninin
                  ...
                  I am assuming the Florida reference is to the hold on Haynes. That happened right in the middle of the field in clear view of everyone and was very clearly a holding penalty...
                  With which part? Surely you can't disagree it was a hold?
                  Last edited by surveyor; 10-31-2017, 08:56 AM. Reason: Fixed brocken quote brackets

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                  • johnkyblue
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 4418

                    #10
                    On the UF drive before they were allowed to hold a LOT.

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                    • catfaninin
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 2016

                      #11
                      Originally posted by johnkyblue
                      On the UF drive before they were allowed to hold a LOT.
                      Probably so. But let's be honest. How many plays could there not be a hold called on? Difference is when it's on the line there are 10-12 bodies so a lot of them get missed. When you are away from the line and in plain view it will get called most every time.

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                      • SBCatMan
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 1765

                        #12
                        I was at the UT game. The almost miss on the first Pass Interference would have been horrible. But, that was corrected by another official. After that, no complaints. UT lost their first TD on a penalty that occurred behind and away from the play. They lost a first and goal at the 1 on an illegal procedure penalty. Without those two calls against UT, we would have been in serious trouble.

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                        • 40bill
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 8451

                          #13
                          This board is actually really sound and stable about the team.
                          there are some sites that have a LOT of posters that expect Alabama results NOW.
                          Truth is Saban did it at LSU but not MSU. Alabama but not in the pros.
                          Alabama and LSU had some winning tradition
                          We didn't.
                          This program of ours isn't rebuilding. It's really finally after all these years starting.
                          I hope.

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                          • DA#23
                            Administrator
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 7342

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 40bill
                            This program of ours isn't rebuilding. It's really finally after all these years starting.
                            I hope.
                            The truth if ever you will read it.

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                            • Spiritof96
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 13503

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 40bill
                              This board is actually really sound and stable about the team.
                              there are some sites that have a LOT of posters that expect Alabama results NOW.
                              Truth is Saban did it at LSU but not MSU. Alabama but not in the pros.
                              Alabama and LSU had some winning tradition
                              We didn't.
                              This program of ours isn't rebuilding. It's really finally after all these years starting.
                              I hope.
                              And that is really the best way to look at it. After 5 years, (30 really) we are ready to start the work of becoming a sucesseful SEC Football program. My hope is that this is a foundational season.
                              Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                              ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                              Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                              No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                              RIP: Charlie Munger​

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