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  • Jaxcat
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2025
    • 383

    #1

    WNBA: Pay us what you owe us

    I do not watch the NBA much less the WNBA, but I just had to comment. The league has lost money every single year of its existence (at least it had until maybe a year or so ago when i read an article about the league's finances). The NBA props it up financially. The level of basketball is, from what I've observed in highlights on ESPN, about like good boys HS (and that may be giving them.more credit than they deserve as I believe an all-state boys team would rout the best WNBA team). The women are good - but they're women. They aren't as athletically gifted as men are. The notion that the league 'owes' them anything is beyond laughable. They don't generate enough revenue on their own to pay the bills. To be fair and to pay them what they're 'owed' would be to ask for refunds from every player and coach.
  • blueheretic
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2025
    • 569

    #2
    From what I've read, the NBA subsidizes them.

    Keeps them afloat.

    Their reaction to Clark shows that the majority of them do not understand finance or economics.

    "I am the punishment of God. If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you."

    Genghis Khan

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    • blueheretic
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2025
      • 569

      #3
      Millions in losses each year from what I readClick image for larger version

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      "I am the punishment of God. If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you."

      Genghis Khan

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      • Jaxcat
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2025
        • 383

        #4
        Guess the basics of economics haven't reached the league yet. If made to stand on its own thebleague would've folded many years ago. Here's your unemployment check - that's what you're 'owed'.

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        • BlueHeaven
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2025
          • 185

          #5
          It's just not a good product with the way the refs are out there like it's an event at the Roman Colliseum. They abuse their best player for reasons unknown. FWIW, Angel Reese has got to be the worst female basketball player I've ever seen.

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          • Old School
            Administrator
            • Oct 2014
            • 2218

            #6
            Originally posted by Jaxcat
            I To be fair and to pay them what they're 'owed' would be to ask for refunds from every player and coach.
            Pretty much.

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            • rick64
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2025
              • 35

              #7
              When your company or business loses money year after year after year. Guess what, employees typically don't get raises or bonuses. Welcome to the real world.

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              • Jaxcat
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2025
                • 383

                #8
                The story on ESPN and other outlets quoted multiple X posts that all said pretty much the same thing we have: your business loses money every single year and you want what is 'owed' to you? Completely tone deaf WNBA players. Avg WNBA salary is ~ $147k according to one source I read (144 players). Even if every player's salary was eliminated, the league would STILL lose money. What are they 'owed'? I'd guess, in any other situation, they're owed absolutely nothing, much less $147k.

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                • WeWant9
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2025
                  • 190

                  #9
                  I’m all for paying people what they are owed, but very curious on what amount they think would be fair? They will not get paid like an NBA player.

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                  • Jaxcat
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2025
                    • 383

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WeWant9
                    I’m all for paying people what they are owed, but very curious on what amount they think would be fair? They will not get paid like an NBA player.
                    ^But, according to the more outspoken players, it's misogyny and sexist to not pay the WNBA players on par with the NBA. I just SMH at the incredible stupidity people display on a daily basis.

                    One of the comments suggested that the best WNBA players would be very competitive on a boys HS team. Is that true, though? The women are not without skills, for sure. But, pretty much every HS boys team has multiple players who can dunk, who presumably are faster, stronger, quicker than a WNBA player. Do the women shoot better, get rebounding position better, better fundamentally, etc. where they would be 'very competitive'? Not sure about that. IIRC, a few years ago the Women's national soccer team played against an all-star 15-YO boys team and got smoked. Wouldn't 17- and 18-YO HS BB players be better than 20-something YO WNBA players logically?

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                    • KCKUKFan
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 14228

                      #11
                      The WBNA has been subsidized by the NBA for fifteen years, and they have never turned a profit. It's essentially make-a-wish league.

                      Caitlin Clark has given it eyes that it never would have had, otherwise, which is why they're all rocking those dumb t-shirts. These chicks should be lucky they're getting paid anything.

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                      • Jaxcat
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2025
                        • 383

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KCKUKFan
                        The WBNA has been subsidized by the NBA for fifteen years, and they have never turned a profit. It's essentially make-a-wish league.

                        Caitlin Clark has given it eyes that it never would have had, otherwise, which is why they're all rocking those dumb t-shirts. These chicks should be lucky they're getting paid anything.
                        Amen. BTW, I didn't know this either, but the WNBA started in 1996. So, the league has been subsidized for THIRTY years without making a profit. Other than a government boondoggle, what business would be allowed to lose money for 30 consecutive years before closing its doors? And, then have the employees of said business ******************** and moan about not getting paid enough? Hard to believe this is not some SNL skit, you know?

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                        • KCKUKFan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 14228

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jaxcat

                          Amen. BTW, I didn't know this either, but the WNBA started in 1996. So, the league has been subsidized for THIRTY years without making a profit. Other than a government boondoggle, what business would be allowed to lose money for 30 consecutive years before closing its doors? And, then have the employees of said business ******************** and moan about not getting paid enough? Hard to believe this is not some SNL skit, you know?
                          It's not politically correct, but there's no money to be made in professional women's sports. The WNBA has been an utter failure, and it's only still going as virtue signaling by Adam Silver and his band of goons. The NBA has never seen a "social issue" that they're not willing to exploit, clearly. Same goes for gender relations.

                          It's probably a solid write off, too
                          Last edited by KCKUKFan; 07-21-2025, 11:22 AM.

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                          • drew_ukfan
                            Junior Member
                            • Jul 2025
                            • 43

                            #14
                            Originally posted by KCKUKFan

                            It's not politically correct, but there's no money to be made in professional women's sports. The WNBA has been an utter failure, and it's only still going as virtue signaling by Adam Silver and his band of goons. The NBA has never seen a "social issue" that they're not willing to exploit, clearly. Same goes for gender relations.

                            It's probably a solid write off, too
                            Great post and the reason I quit watching the nba was all the social issues. Black nba players crying over equality while making millions, give me a break. This is the same thing. We live in such a victimhood
                            mentality society and quite frankly, I’m tired of it and have basically walked away from supporting said society

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                            • KCKUKFan
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 14228

                              #15
                              Originally posted by drew_ukfan

                              Great post and the reason I quit watching the nba was all the social issues. Black nba players crying over equality while making millions, give me a break. This is the same thing. We live in such a victimhood
                              mentality society and quite frankly, I’m tired of it and have basically walked away from supporting said society
                              See, I think it's annoying, but it's not going to stop me from watching the games.

                              Its sort of like separating the art from the artist -- I've always been good at that.

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