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  • Blue Heaven
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 6283

    #1261
    Free Solo- Alex Honnald attempts a 3,000 foot climb up Yosemite's El Capitan with no rope. Great documentary here that makes me appreciate the ground I walk on much more. This won the academy award for best documentary and I can see why. Great camera work and great look into the life of a thrill seeker. You need to see this.
    Isaiah 5:20

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    • Joneslab
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 39604

      #1262

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      • TrueblueCATfan
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 16274

        #1263
        COLD PURSUIT.......talk about some good ole sweet revenge....Liam Neeson is such a great actor

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        • Spiritof96
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 13503

          #1264
          Originally posted by Will Lavender
          I can't imagine what it is like to be a successful director and have to deal with studio notes all the time.
          Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
          ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
          Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
          No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
          RIP: Charlie Munger​

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          • KCKUKFan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 14228

            #1265
            Originally posted by Spiritof96

            I can't imagine what it is like to be a successful director and have to deal with studio notes all the time.
            Especially if you're a green director. Obviously, Steven Spielberg and Bob Zemeckis have a lot more studio clout, but imagine being a new filmmaker working on a big studio picture. Jesus, the horror.

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            • Blue Heaven
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 6283

              #1266
              Originally posted by Will Lavender
              Hilarious Will! Just think. If that title was changed, then there probably wouldn't have been Huey Lewis and the News' Back in Time.
              Isaiah 5:20

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              • Spiritof96
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 13503

                #1267
                I hate to admit this, but years ago I would download scripts and edit them, reworking the dialogue to improve them. Interesting hobbie, I was single and had too much time on my hands...
                Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                • KCKUKFan
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 14228

                  #1268
                  Originally posted by Spiritof96
                  I hate to admit this, but years ago I would download scripts and edit them, reworking the dialogue to improve them. Interesting hobbie, I was single and had too much time on my hands...
                  Spirit, the script doctor. I'd love to see your idea of punching up dialogue.

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                  • Spiritof96
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 13503

                    #1269
                    Originally posted by KCKUKFan

                    Spirit, the script doctor. I'd love to see your idea of punching up dialogue.
                    Figuring out the best way to say complicated, difficult, or sensitive things is a significant part of my day job.

                    I would truly love to talk to an actual screen writer to ask why so many cringe worthy turns of phrase survive the editing process. I know some of it has to do with actors/directors deviating from what's on the page, but still... When I am reading a novel or watching a movie and there is some clunky dialogue that jarringly fails to resemble how actual people speak, it drives me crazy and pulls me out of the story.

                    I especially dislike modern idioms in period pieces. I mean, come on man!

                    George Lucas (post 1980) and Tom Clancy are among the worst popular offenders that come to mind. The Coen brothers and Cormac Mccarthy are among the best.

                    (Egregiously stupid or impossible physics also bothers me to no end)
                    Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                    ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                    Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                    No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                    RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                    • KCKUKFan
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 14228

                      #1270
                      Originally posted by Spiritof96
                      The Coen brothers and Cormac Mccarthy are among the best.
                      These writers do the opposite. They tend to put period idioms in modern pieces. "Raising Arizona," "No Country For Old Men," etc.

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                      • Spiritof96
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 13503

                        #1271
                        Originally posted by KCKUKFan

                        These writers do the opposite. They tend to put period idioms in modern pieces. "Raising Arizona," "No Country For Old Men," etc.
                        Their use of incongruously poetic and erudite language from the mouths of rubes, hicks, and idiots is one of the things I love about them. Anachronism can be fun, when it's intentional.

                        Raising Arizona, Fargo, Oh Brother, and No Country are some of my all time favorites for that reason. I think I have seen Raising Arizona 100 times.
                        Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                        ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                        Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                        No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                        RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #1272
                          The Coen brothers are great dialogue-writers.

                          I don't really notice bad dialogue a whole lot in the stuff I read but you really notice it if the dialogue is good. Elmore Leonard writes great dialogue. I used to read a guy back in high school named Andrew Klavan who really had a knack for dialogue.

                          Sometimes getting the speech "just right" can sort of take you out of the narrative. This doesn't happen a lot in movies probably but in books occasionally writers can try a little too hard to make the dialogue interesting. Sometimes dialogue is better if it's simply pushing the narrative forward and giving us more clues.

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                          • Joneslab
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 39604

                            #1273
                            The cop writer Michael Connelly is another guy who has a great ear. Which makes sense because he spent the first half of his career as a crime reporter.

                            His books are filled with these tremendous conversations where his lead detective is trying to suss things out. He's sort of a master at what he does and if you like mystery books you have to read him (if you haven't already).

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                            • Spiritof96
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 13503

                              #1274
                              Originally posted by Will Lavender
                              The cop writer Michael Connelly is another guy who has a great ear. Which makes sense because he spent the first half of his career as a crime reporter.

                              His books are filled with these tremendous conversations where his lead detective is trying to suss things out. He's sort of a master at what he does and if you like mystery books you have to read him (if you haven't already).
                              That's the Bosch guy correct? He is a big hit with my co-workers. Sadly, as a genre, I don't like police / detective stories at all. Cops, FBI agents, Lawyers, former police... I'm out.

                              I think I am too familiar with real police and how they function to see detectives as heroic or interested in the "truth"... Same with Jack Reache stories, an "elite" MP!?! LOL! Those guys spend all their time looking for missing lap tops and checking ID's.

                              I do like the show Law & Order and can suspend my disbelief. I also like those cheesy Tom Seleck Jesse Stone movies.
                              Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                              ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                              Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                              No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                              RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                              • Joneslab
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 39604

                                #1275
                                Originally posted by Spiritof96

                                That's the Bosch guy correct? He is a big hit with my co-workers. Sadly, as a genre, I don't like police / detective stories at all. Cops, FBI agents, Lawyers, former police... I'm out.
                                Yes. He's got different kinds of books; his main series is about an LA cop named Bosch, which was turned into the Amazon show. He's got another series about an FBI agent, another about a crime reporter, and yet another about a sort of rogue lawyer (played in the movie version by Matthew McConaughey).

                                The thing about these books is that most (90%) of these guys aren't heroic at all. Bosch's books are about police corruption. His main character in one series, Bosch, is essentially a brute who bends rules, sometimes in catastrophic ways. The mysteries are great in the Bosch books but the more intriguing parts of them are the gripping exchanges between bad cops and even-worse cops. A lot of his books are almost like workplace dramas.

                                But to be honest, I'm not a lover of cop books either. My favorite genre is probably toward the more psychological--psychological suspense or psychological horror. But Connelly does what he does at such an elite level that you have to be in awe of his talent. Just generally though cop stories are kind of take-it-or-leave-it for me.

                                My favorite things are weird one-offs that don't sit neatly into genres. My favorite book of the last few years is the masterpiece I'm Thinking of Ending Things, and if you tell me a genre for that thing I'll buy you a steak dinner.

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