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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #556
    * And Kentucky wasn't an "average team" this past season, FWIW.

    Got an atrocious draw in the NCAA Tournament and had to play a similar team in IU. If we would've gotten a true seed we were probably a Sweet Sixteen type of team.

    That means there are roughly 300 D1 teams who didn't make it to that point. We were certainly a donut. But average, no.

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    • Joneslab
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 39604

      #557
      Jones says that Bolden will sign tomorrow at the signing deadline, assuming he signs a letter of intent, even though he will announce Thursday.

      So expect some leaks if he does sign an LOI.

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      • justford
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 4669

        #558
        Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

        It isn't, really. These days if you're a senior, it usually means you haven't performed at a very high level throughout your career.
        Especially at UK.

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        • BBNalldayeveryday
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 404

          #559
          Originally posted by Will Lavender
          * And Kentucky wasn't an "average team" this past season, FWIW.

          Got an atrocious draw in the NCAA Tournament and had to play a similar team in IU. If we would've gotten a true seed we were probably a Sweet Sixteen type of team.

          That means there are roughly 300 D1 teams who didn't make it to that point. We were certainly a donut. But average, no.
          I just think other than Ullis and Murray the rest of the team was below average talent wise. We did get a tough draw, but you have to beat who you have to beat. Historically there have been teams who have went all the way that were placed in brackets with early difficult match ups.

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #560
            Originally posted by BBNalldayeveryday

            I just think other than Ullis and Murray the rest of the team was below average talent wise.
            Not even Skal and Poythress were below average.

            Briscoe was way above average for a freshman. 10 points, 5 rebounds a game, 3 assists, <2 turnovers a game all while playing a position he'd never played and being probably the second best perimeter defender as a freshman Cal has had behind MKG.

            Eric Bledsoe: 11 points a game, 3 rebounds a game, 3 assists, 3 turnovers a game.

            Doron Lamb: 12 points a game, 2 rebounds a game, 2 assists a game.

            James Young: 14 points a game, 4 rebounds a game, 2 assists a game.

            Briscoe compares favorably with all these guys. Important to remember that you're talking about a freshman. It's easy to see all these guys as Anthony Davises, but some of them help the team even though they're not world-destroying talents. Briscoe helped the team in a hundred big and small ways last year.
            Last edited by Joneslab; 05-17-2016, 02:36 PM.

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            • justford
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 4669

              #561
              Originally posted by Will Lavender

              Not even Skal and Lee were below average.

              Briscoe was way above average for a freshman. 10 points, 5 rebounds a game, 3 assists, <2 turnovers a game all while playing a position he'd never played and being probably the second best perimeter defender as a freshman Cal has had behind MKG.

              Eric Bledsoe: 11 points a game, 3 rebounds a game, 3 assists, 3 turnovers a game.

              Doron Lamb: 12 points a game, 2 rebounds a game, 2 assists a game.

              James Young: 14 points a game, 4 rebounds a game, 2 assists a game.

              Briscoe compares favorably with all these guys. Important to remember that you're talking about a freshman. It's easy to see all these guys as Anthony Davises, but some of them help the team even though they're not world-destroying talents. Briscoe helped the team in a hundred big and small ways last year.
              Lee being a Junior was not below average? Can you elaborate?
              Thanks

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #562
                Originally posted by justford
                Lee being a Junior was not below average? Can you elaborate?
                Thanks
                Sorry, I meant to say Poythress. Mistyped.

                Lee was probably average. Had quite a few games in the second half of the season where he put up literally nothing.

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                • Joneslab
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 39604

                  #563
                  The cartoon character otherwise known as De'Aaron Fox has a new mixtape:

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                  • BBNalldayeveryday
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 404

                    #564
                    Originally posted by Will Lavender

                    I couldn't disagree more with this take.

                    You don't think our tissue-paper-thin frontcourt was the reason we were average*? Briscoe would get out there and fight and claw like an absolute animal while the frontcourt guys at times would stand around and watch.

                    Yeah, his shooting hurt. At times badly. But generally he could bring so much to the table, so much that didn't really get recorded on the stat sheet. One of the main reasons we started to kill zones in the last part of the year was Briscoe's ability to get in the middle and pass out.

                    We BADLY need Briscoe back.
                    Him leaving would impact us from a depth standpoint in the back court. For that reason I hope he does come back. He came to UK as a 5 star recruit who ended up not being that. Believe me, I hope he comes back and improves in every facet of his game obviously, but if he doesn't come back I just don't think it would be as detrimental of a loss as some others do that's all.
                    Last edited by BBNalldayeveryday; 05-17-2016, 02:52 PM.

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                    • BBNalldayeveryday
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 404

                      #565
                      On that note who do you all think Bolden ends up choosing?

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #566
                        Originally posted by BBNalldayeveryday
                        He came to UK as a 5 star recruit who ended up not being that
                        Well, if you define "5-star recruit" as a Cousins, Davis, Wall, Murray, Randle, or Towns, then he definitely wasn't that. But most of what Cal has gotten at UK haven't lived up to what those guys did. Those are not normal players.

                        Briscoe is way more in line with the Youngs and Bledsoes production-wise. (Bledsoe had much more NBA potential because of his uncanny athleticism.)

                        But he's much more important than just backcourt depth on next year's team. This guy is absolutely crucial to next year's team in the same way Darius Miller was. He'll start and play almost all the time.

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #567
                          Originally posted by BBNalldayeveryday
                          On that note who do you all think Bolden ends up choosing?
                          Still think Kentucky mainly because of Cal's tweet.

                          There had to be something to that.

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                          • George
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 10355

                            #568
                            Originally posted by Will Lavender

                            Still think Kentucky mainly because of Cal's tweet.

                            There had to be something to that.
                            What tweet?

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                            • Joneslab
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 39604

                              #569
                              Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                              What tweet?

                              John Calipari ‏@UKCoachCalipari May 16

                              Hey, #BBN, what do you think about what I wrote? I know there are a lot of bold statements in there ...

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                              • BBNalldayeveryday
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 404

                                #570
                                Originally posted by Will Lavender

                                Still think Kentucky mainly because of Cal's tweet.

                                There had to be something to that.
                                My big blue brother I hope you're right. It would allow Bam to stick at 4.

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