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  • CATHYnKY
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 5573

    #31
    Originally posted by gerntz
    Does the outcome of this game at all impact UK's chances of winning the NCAA? I think not.
    Doesn't matter. This is a MUST win as far as I'm concerned. But then I'm married to a dirty bird fan who is being very ****************y right now.

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    • Lighthouse
      Gone But Never Forgotten
      • Oct 2014
      • 35962

      #32
      Originally posted by Will Lavender

      I generally think the "it will all come down to the refs" crowd is paranoid, but Roger Ayers concerns me.

      IIRC we lost the two games he did last year, and Cal has a poor record since he's been here in games Ayers does. BUT I believe he has a penchant for calling a lot of fouls, so that may be an advantage for UK.
      This is an ACC crew, but Karl Hess concerns me more than Ayers. Don't know much about Roberts. The fact that Ayers has wacked Cal, just means he doesn't put up with his antics. Cal, as much as any Coach can get out of hand very quick. Hope he keeps the reins on tomorrow, I doubt the Officials have much to do with the way the game turns out. I hope.
      John 3:3

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      • kynut
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 329

        #33
        Roger Ayers obviously has a boner for Cal. Numbers don't lie. Cal is lucky to win half the games in which Ayers is an official. That simple stat goes against all odds for a coach that wins over 80% of his games when Ayers is not around. Ayers will put on his bullying act today and it will be directed at Cal, not Rick. It's seems odd to me that the ranks of officials contains just maybe a half dozen total fools and we always manage to get at least one of them in the big games. Why not get it out in the open and assign T.V. Teddy Valentine, Roger Ayers and Doug Shows to this game? Right there is an all-star officials team if I've ever seen one. Better to go to the zoo and raid the monkey house for three officials. Just MHO.

        kynut

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        • TrueblueCATfan
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 16278

          #34
          I hate this game..I hate playing Loserville....can't wait until it is over

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          • CATHYnKY
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 5573

            #35
            Originally posted by TrueblueCATfan
            I hate this game..I hate playing Loserville....can't wait until it is over
            I hear ya sista!!! Turned down going to 2 all blue game parties today. My dirty bird roommate will be watching with friends at a sports bar. He is smiling very ****************ily. And baiting me with stuff like, "but why aren't you going to watch with friends?" Your Cats have are the #1 team in the country and favored by double digits!" My only response was "you are wrong about the spread!" He never says anything to me on game day. I hope he drinks himself to oblivion and has a headache the size of yhe Dirty Bird head on the floor in The Bucket. GRRRRRRRR!!! Double

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            • TrueblueCATfan
              TrueblueCATfan commented
              Editing a comment
              All our dirty bird friends are going to checks,,ask us to join..no way do I watch these games with UL fans...can't do it
          • Katmendo
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 2278

            #36
            That 1-3-1 half court trap we saw a couple weeks ago still haunts me. We looked awfully tentative about it.

            THIS is the game of the year for TV and the NCAA. I predict that UL will get many fouls, and that we will too, in the great "balancing" acts that ALWAYS seem to color high profile games.

            I fear the pace will be slow, not fast, IMO. Because of their fouls on us, we have to score at the line.

            I THINK (certainly don't know) the key to this game will be Andrew Harrison and Trey Lyles. Lousiville will box us out and get over the back fouls on our bigs, and they will glue themselves to Booker and Aa Harrison. So it will be Andrew's penetration and then Trey Lyles mid range game that will be the X-factors.

            There, now.. I've made my self feel better.

            UK 64
            UL 57

            Still think a LOT of whistles.



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            • Lighthouse
              Gone But Never Forgotten
              • Oct 2014
              • 35962

              #37
              Originally posted by kynut
              Roger Ayers obviously has a boner for Cal. Numbers don't lie. Cal is lucky to win half the games in which Ayers is an official. That simple stat goes against all odds for a coach that wins over 80% of his games when Ayers is not around. Ayers will put on his bullying act today and it will be directed at Cal, not Rick. It's seems odd to me that the ranks of officials contains just maybe a half dozen total fools and we always manage to get at least one of them in the big games. Why not get it out in the open and assign T.V. Teddy Valentine, Roger Ayers and Doug Shows to this game? Right there is an all-star officials team if I've ever seen one. Better to go to the zoo and raid the monkey house for three officials. Just MHO.

              kynut

              First, Shows doesn't work in the ACC, so couldn't be on this game. I'm not a particular fan of Roger Ayers, but Cal has a part in this issue too. Personally, I love Coach Cal, but if I was on this game and he stayed out on the court and out of the Coaches box, and said some of the things he says, I'd wack him too. Fans of any team have a few Officials they don't like and that's because they are assigned all their Big games. But remember the coaches have to approve the officials, and if Cal approved this crew, that says something about them.
              John 3:3

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #38
                It isn't the technicals with Ayers for me as much as it is the fouls.

                On another board Jon Scott pointed out that before Cal, Ayers had called 16 fouls a game against Kentucky. That's three fewer than the average of 19. Since Cal came, Ayers has called 24 fouls per game on Kentucky.

                I hope we're just dealing with a small sample size there. Really I wouldn't know Roger Ayers from Bill Ayers had it not been for the UNC game last year. The grudge fans have against individual refs has always been odd to me.

                But that UNC game was so bad, and Ayers was so awful in particular, that I remember his name. I also remember Karl Hess from the Marquette nightmare, particularly the Antwain Barbour charge, but Hess is apparently hated by all fanbases.

                I still think that a lot of fouls hurt Louisville. They can't shoot free throws well--although they've been trending upward the last couple of games--and they don't have the depth Kentucky does. I maintain that they'll have three or four players in this game who will put up almost nothing statistically but will just be out there. If they get in foul trouble and have to rely on those players, they can't beat UK.

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                • KevinHall
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 6857

                  #39
                  Hess has had problems with UK that go all the way back to Pitino. He did a game against UNC that was just awful one year. It got to a point were I really did think he had a grudge against UK. He hadn't done many of their games in recent years. I had hoped Cal had black balled him from doing UK games.
                  Refs are human and can and do hold grudges against certain coaches or teams. I hope none of these three do today against either team.
                  Kentucky fan since 1971.

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                  • TrueblueCATfan
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 16278

                    #40
                    WOW......a lot of blue getting ready to head into the Chicken Bucket......that will tick Pitino off

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                    • Joneslab
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 39604

                      #41
                      Honest to God I was out walking the dog this morning and saw a cardinal.

                      WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

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                      • TrueblueCATfan
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 16278

                        #42
                        Originally posted by Will Lavender
                        Honest to God I was out walking the dog this morning and saw a cardinal.

                        WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

                        I had one on my patio one morning and I yelled GO BIG BLUE and it flew away....no lie

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                        • Lighthouse
                          Gone But Never Forgotten
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 35962

                          #43
                          My big thing with Karl Hess is, he should have retired 2-3 years ago because he has trouble getting up and down the court. Another example of the 3 man crew allowing an old official to stay around longer. If I had that opportunity, I probably would have done the same.
                          John 3:3

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                          • CATHYnKY
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 5573

                            #44
                            Originally posted by Will Lavender
                            Honest to God I was out walking the dog this morning and saw a cardinal.

                            WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
                            I saw 4 or 5 this morning at our feeder. NEVER see that many. I'm thinking they are afraid and staying in packs today

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                            • thughes
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 3526

                              #45
                              Originally posted by TrueblueCATfan
                              WOW......a lot of blue getting ready to head into the Chicken Bucket......that will tick Pitino off
                              They are even talking about this on one of the UL messages boards. LOL!


                              Quote "Looking outside the YUM center there may be more like 3,000-5,000."
                              Last edited by thughes; 12-27-2014, 01:53 PM.

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