Interesting voicemail from Cal trying to stick up for an old friend. Says that Bruiser Flint would've never been fired had Drexel not lost Damion Lee to the grad transfer rule. (Somebody pointed out on Twitter that Drexel only won 11 games with Lee last season.) The more interesting thing in there is that Cal says he only took a grad transfer because Duke did it. I assume he's talking there about Julius Mays.
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I thought it was a rather odd message to leave. It may not have been his intention, but it sounds like he is trying to hit Louisville with a low blow.Isaiah 5:20 -
I think he's trying to stick up for Flint and offer an excuse, maybe in the hopes that Flint will land somewhere else.
Problem is it isn't a good argument. Flint's a mediocre coach. He's been at Drexel for 15 years and has never been to the NCAA Tournament. He just went 6-25. That's terrible and I have to think that having Lee wouldn't have changed things too much.Comment
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Actually the only times Flint has ever been to the Dance was in '97 and '98...his first two years at UMASS.
Those two teams would've been signed by John Calipari.Comment
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I don't think its about UL at all. Most of these coaches hate that rule where a 5th year senior can transfer without penalty. I can see why too. They invest a lot on these kids and then they leave when all the work comes to fruition. But they know the rules now and it up to them to try to convince a kid like Lee to stay.Last edited by KevinHall; 03-09-2016, 08:58 AM.Kentucky fan since 1971.Comment
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I believe he's trying to stick up for Bruiser as well, but you know SOME fans will get on him about it. Yes Flint is a bad coach. Having Lee there would not have made a difference more than likely. Everything was within the rules, which is why his argument holds no water.Isaiah 5:20Comment
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My problem with the voicemail is that Cal says it's (the rule) bad for the kids. BS.
If a kid can transfer to a school that gives him an opportunity to attain a masters degree, how is that bad? Oops. Maybe it is bad since the NCAA and it's membership is not really about education, anyway. They are about control and money.
I'm surprised more coaches don't become politicians as they all are, to one degree or another, deftly able to talk outta both sides of their faces.
Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.
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Cal's argument that he took Mays only because Duke had done the same thing is pretty lame too. Very few rules are for the actual students-athletes benefit. I'm glad they have this one and hope it doesn't get strong armed out by some high level coaches and AD's.Kentucky fan since 1971.Comment
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Especially because Cal has made a living in the second half of his career from one-year "student"-athletes.
This is sort of an inversion about what I've always found ironic about Lee and Lewis at UofL. Before Lee and Lewis it was always: "One-year players are mercenaries! You can't have any connection to players who are there only one year!"
After Lee/Lewis it was: "I can't believe we're forfeiting March and hurting those two kids! Damion and Trey for life!"
Funny how that works.
Here Cal is undercutting the whole "players-first" argument he's made for years. If a player has graduated, with the leeway these coaches have to leave whenever they want to with absolutely no restrictions, then the player should be able to look for the best situation that fits him. I think it's a good rule. Neither player nor coach should be locked in when there might be better opportunities out there for them, just as you wouldn't lock a regular non-athlete student into a contract and force them to stay.Last edited by Joneslab; 03-09-2016, 09:08 AM.Comment
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Yup. That's where most fan bases become such hypocrites it's laughable. UofL fans (and many of our own) wailed that Cal had to know what was going on at Memphis and UMass because "he's duh haid coach and is reesponsibowl." Many of our fans were saying that prior to him coming to UK.
Once he arrived here, our fan base essentially said it's not possible for Cal (or any coach) to know every single thing that goes on. UofL fans guffawed.
Now we have the Powell mess at UofL and Card fans say it's not possible for Pateena to know everything that goes on, and WE say "he is in charge! He shuud be far'd". And we guffaw back.Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.
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The difference is that at UofL it was happening across multiple years with many different players. (And players' friends. And, apparently, fathers.)
At UMASS it was one agent/one player. At Memphis it was one player (though Rose's entire team allegedly cheated on the SAT.)
Harder to wrap a person's mind around the fact that Pitino could not have known. It was happening at the dorm. It was happening under the direction of at least one, and maybe multiple, people on UofL's staff. And it happened quite a few times.
I have no idea if Pitino knew. As far as the NCAA's concerned, it doesn't matter if he knew or not. But it's a different situation with Cal.
I've always felt that Cal may not have known about Camby. He probably did know about Rose, but of course the NCAA had already cleared him. I think Memphis rolled the dice when they found out that Rose was going to get hit probably thinking they could argue that since the NCAA had cleared him months before they may be able to escape major punishment.Last edited by Joneslab; 03-09-2016, 10:07 AM.Comment
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lol..............Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.
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