Full team living in the Lodge this summer

[Trueblujr]

I think it's great for the summer. I wonder how many actually live at the lodge during the season...less than half maybe? Thankful we didn't waste money on upgrading or building a new lodge a few years back prior to guys living in nice places off campus.

If they were to build something now it would have to be a pretty high end apartment complex type arrangement with amenities that make it attractive for all of the team members to want to live there. Some of these players these days have families, kids, maybe siblings attending the university, they should be allowed to live there as well.

[Pobilly]

What we might have seen last year is the growing pains of guys not living in the same building and being around each other. There was a disconnect with last years team no doubt.

[Cawood86]

What we might have seen last year is the growing pains of guys not living in the same building and being around each other. There was a disconnect with last years team no doubt.

I do agree with this.

[bthaunert]

Interesting, I had no idea on that piece.

If you want to look at the rise (and fall) of St Johns basketball in the 80's and 90's, a part of that was that St John's did not have any on-campus dorms in the 1980's and into the 1990's. So, players would get a housing stipend of around $700/month to live off campus due to the price of housing in that area. Two of them would find a $600/month apartment, split the rent and each have $400/month in their pocket as extra spending money. That was VERY unique to St Johns and they used it to their advantage. That was a lot for a college kid in the 80's.

Seth Davis actually wrote about this many years ago. Here is part of a yahoo article talking about it:

"Seth Davis of SI.com, however, hits on another reason that went well beyond the hardwood. In an incisive look at the fall of St. John's, Davis mentions the loss of a little-known recruiting tool that helped St. John's stand out in the basketball world. The NCAA allows a cost of living stipend, and, if a school doesn't have dormitories, that stipend is linked to the local cost of living to help cover housing. St. John's, long a "commuter school," is in New York City, of course, and that stipend was a sizable one. That stipend is guaranteed for players even if their housing costs are less than the stipend which means money in the pocket of players.

The school started building dorms in 1999, though, and that meant that the cost of living was now linked to those dorm rooms. That meant very little extra cash and it meant SJU lost a tasty little recruiting incentive."

[WeWant9]

If you want to look at the rise (and fall) of St Johns basketball in the 80's and 90's, a part of that was that St John's did not have any on-campus dorms in the 1980's and into the 1990's. So, players would get a housing stipend of around $700/month to live off campus due to the price of housing in that area. Two of them would find a $600/month apartment, split the rent and each have $400/month in their pocket as extra spending money. That was VERY unique to St Johns and they used it to their advantage. That was a lot for a college kid in the 80's.

Seth Davis actually wrote about this many years ago. Here is part of a yahoo article talking about it:

"Seth Davis of SI.com, however, hits on another reason that went well beyond the hardwood. In an incisive look at the fall of St. John's, Davis mentions the loss of a little-known recruiting tool that helped St. John's stand out in the basketball world. The NCAA allows a cost of living stipend, and, if a school doesn't have dormitories, that stipend is linked to the local cost of living to help cover housing. St. John's, long a "commuter school," is in New York City, of course, and that stipend was a sizable one. That stipend is guaranteed for players even if their housing costs are less than the stipend which means money in the pocket of players.

The school started building dorms in 1999, though, and that meant that the cost of living was now linked to those dorm rooms. That meant very little extra cash and it meant SJU lost a tasty little recruiting incentive."

You always drop some fun info to read.