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  • 40bill
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 8451

    #1

    So the blinders are off

    Even the most die hard daydreamer of us that wax poetic about the 'good old days' have to admit that even a little part of that is officially gone. No more winking at the special benefits athletes get...cars, spending money, free steak dinners...it's all official now.

    'College athletics" is officially in the late Rick Telandars words 'age appropriate professional sports.' Not more or less. Likely should have been that 30 years or more ago.

    This will sooner or later open up further doors: taxation of player salaries, unionization and sooner or later collective bargaining. Salary caps, long term (3 year) contracts...and more.
    It's gonna happen.

    Along with the fact that the rich will get richer. D2 AND D3 schools will be de facto feeder programs...which they generally are.

    So....I guess it just comes down to I love Kentucky sports....they are my favorite pro teams.

    Can't say if it's gonna be good or bad. Just is what it is.
  • KCKUKFan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 14228

    #2
    The good old days have been gone for the better part of a decade, for better or worse.

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    • George
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 10355

      #3
      As long as there are good basketball players dressed in Kentucky uniforms and competing for national championships, I couldn’t care less.

      I get the “purity” angle, but it stopped doing anything for me a long time ago. That’s just “old man screaming at clouds” material at this point.

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      • Matt Dillon
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 49604

        #4
        Originally posted by 40bill
        Even the most die hard daydreamer of us that wax poetic about the 'good old days' have to admit that even a little part of that is officially gone. No more winking at the special benefits athletes get...cars, spending money, free steak dinners...it's all official now.

        'College athletics" is officially in the late Rick Telandars words 'age appropriate professional sports.' Not more or less. Likely should have been that 30 years or more ago.

        This will sooner or later open up further doors: taxation of player salaries, unionization and sooner or later collective bargaining. Salary caps, long term (3 year) contracts...and more.
        It's gonna happen.

        Along with the fact that the rich will get richer. D2 AND D3 schools will be de facto feeder programs...which they generally are.

        So....I guess it just comes down to I love Kentucky sports....they are my favorite pro teams.

        Can't say if it's gonna be good or bad. Just is what it is.
        From one old fellow to another well-said, Bill.
        Philippians 4:11-4:13

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        • teamchemistry15
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 7022

          #5
          Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt
          As long as there are good basketball players dressed in Kentucky uniforms and competing for national championships, I couldn’t care less.

          I get the “purity” angle, but it stopped doing anything for me a long time ago. That’s just “old man screaming at clouds” material at this point.
          Agreed. It has been crooked since before Bill Walton claimed he took a pay cut when he went pro. Luckily for us, we have one of the greatest programs in the sport and the money to pour in, so we will be just fine. Kentucky is playing by the rules and bringing in top talent, as we should be.

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #6
            I'm often reminded of my dad's (who wasn't a young man) comment when news came out that Kentucky paid Anthony Davis $100k: "Well, he deserved way more than that."

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            • 40bill
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 8451

              #7
              The other fact is that the money being spoken of in the revenue sharing is far less than the numbers that have been thrown out in NIL.

              Proposed numbers are 20 mill per school (perhaps up to 33 mil in ten years).
              75 % of that to football divided by a hundred players is about 150 thousand pee player.
              15% divided by 15 basketball players is 200 thousand per player.

              This is in addition to scholarship and apart from NIL.

              So it's still the wild wild west boys and girls. Just a little more poker money thrown in.

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              • EKYCat
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2022
                • 875

                #8
                I don't know how true it is, but I read Cooper Flagg raked in somewhere near $30MM last year. This is the way it's been now for quite some time and it's not going away. Get on board or get left.

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                • 40bill
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 8451

                  #9
                  Lol.....well, if that bothers you guys....remember there is a Big East that won't be funding football.

                  Give that a couple years and see how 'balance' goes.

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                  • Pobilly
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 4929

                    #10
                    Originally posted by EKYCat
                    I don't know how true it is, but I read Cooper Flagg raked in somewhere near $30MM last year. This is the way it's been now for quite some time and it's not going away. Get on board or get left.
                    28 from an NIL shoe deal alone.
                    Proverbs 25:24

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                    • justford
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 4669

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pobilly

                      28 from an NIL shoe deal alone.
                      How much will his NBA salary be?

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                      • Spiritof96
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 13503

                        #12
                        The "good ole days" of "impermissible benefits" rules used to trip good people up on the dumbest stuff and let egregious cheating go unpunished. I'm glad they are gone, and I'm glad the curtain is pulled back on the pay-for-play that always went on. So long as we win, I don't care about the money.

                        I don't like the volatility of the transfer portal, but I don't see a solution.
                        Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                        ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                        Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                        No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                        RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                        • Pobilly
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 4929

                          #13
                          Originally posted by justford

                          How much will his NBA salary be?
                          four-year, $62.7 million rookie contract plus his shoe / other contracts he will sign.
                          Proverbs 25:24

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                          • BJD
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 454

                            #14
                            These are the good ole days!!

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