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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #1

    The Good, The Bad, The Ugly: Duke Edition

    The Good

    * March 28th, 1992. You're 14 years old. A freshman in high school. You're sitting there, somehow alone in your house because your best friend wanted to make a convenience store run. You've got a never-shaved mustache that makes Kerr Kriisa's look like Burt Reynolds'. You watch a game on TV that you know, even as it's happening in front of you, is capital-H Historic. It's partly the players, partly the coaches, but it's more about the way the game is being played. Then Sean Woods hits the miracle shot and every part of you feels lifted, like you're ready to charge through the wood-paneled living room wall. You run to the telephone, which is what we called them back then, pick it up, get ready to dial your Duke friend's number to gloat...and then Duke inbounds. For most of us the rivalry started as Laettner caught that pass, and in the span of 2.1 seconds it re-arranged something in our brains. Before then, Duke was just another team. After that, Duke loomed large in all our minds as the embodiment of college basketball villainy. What happened last night doesn't vanquish Laettner, but the game felt a little like that one in March all those years ago. And when that buzzer went off, man, I immediately remembered that 14-year-old me, holding that telephone and literally crying. And for only the third time since then, I loved it for him.

    * The Fight. In so many early-season games under John Calipari, Kentucky had the fight brought to them. We've seen games that have been relatively close in the last 10 minutes only to just fall apart as older, better coached teams wore us down. We've seen teams hit big shots late and we just wilted. We've told ourselves in all these Novembers that we're young, that we're going to be good, that we'll win those games in March. Last night we took the fight to Duke late in the game. As they were cramping, we were rising. As the great, pre-pubescent-looking Cooper Flagg was trying to do too much, we were gelling as a team. As John Scheyer was running out of timeouts (shades of 1998), Mark Pope was orchestrating. And that, as we all know, is how you win.

    * The Curse, Lifted. Feels good to wake up on a brisk November morning and tell ourselves that we went in there and won a Champions Classic game. It was beginning to look like we maybe didn't even (gulp) belong in the event. Now? Now on the morning of November 13th, 2024? That stuff is over.

    * Here in my Carr I Feel Safest of All. Andrew Carr was tremendous in that game. His three-point play late was the play that pushed UK over, but he did so many other things. Mainly he was a presence, punishing Duke's front line with his strength and just playing that controlled, un-assuming game you expect in older players. Pope clearly wants the offense to run through him in clutch situations, and he rose to the challenge.

    * Fortunate Garrison. I was really impressed with Brandon Garrison's play in the second half. He was all in that win. One key moment was when he was switched on Flagg and he locked him down, arguably the first time all night we'd been able to really turn either Flagg or Knueppel out of the lane and force them into a tough shot. Right there at that moment was a signal: Kentucky could win the game.

    * The Warriors. We had several players play rough first halves only to rise up in the second. Otega Oweh was the main one, just battling down to the end of the game and dragging out an offensive rebound that iced it. But special mention to Lamont Butler, who I thought had a really rough first half only to come to take people's souls in the second. His play down the stretch was key to our winning that game, and it's a good thing, too. He's obviously critical for the team.

    * They Call it Coaching. More than anything, what we saw last night was the mark of a solid coach. There were all kinds of little plays in that game that Pope had his hands all in. Of course there was the gutsy, incredible run-out at the end that I heard with my own ears Pope drawing up during the timeout. But there were others, including the Carr and-one where he called from the sideline a clear-out for Carr. There was also the interesting choice to spring a press on a flagging (I said it), exhausted Duke and to try and push them out of their offense. If Kentucky was a team just trying to stay afloat for 30 minutes of that game, we were fully in control in the last 10. That's how you coach a big-time game in November.

    The Bad

    * Koo-Koo Ka-Choo Mr. Robinson? Jaxson Robinson had a nightmare game, and you could see it on his face. I think it had to do with physicality: the way Duke was playing, bumping and jostling and (yeah) grabbing on every defensive possession, I just don't think Robinson wanted that sort of game. Others like Oweh and Butler and Carr and even Brea finally embraced the physicality, but not Robinson. He'll have to get better because he's going to play a pivotal role for a team that has so few break-down-the-defense types of players.

    * One-Man Weave. This was certainly not a bad for Kentucky, but the way Duke just started to try and play every possession through Cooper Flagg really hurt them. I thought Knueppel was almost as impressive of a player, and we had no one for him...and yet Duke just totally forgot about him. And everybody else. It became the Cooper Flagg Experience, and Kentucky rode it to the win.

    * Jaywalk it Back. One of my favorite moments last night was Jay Williams saying at halftime that Duke was the deepest and most talented Duke team he'd seen since 2001. And then, when the game ended, they cut to a huge graphic of Cooper Flagg with Jay Williams standing right in front of it. You know they had that sucker drawn up and ready to go well before they went on the air with it. The stories about Duke and Flagg were already written. But Kentucky spoiled it.

    The Ugly

    Are you kidding? Kentucky basketball is Kentucky basketball again. We're right here, right where we belong. People are excited. People are thinking about the past and the future--the way it's supposed to be when you follow a sports program. People will go into work this morning and you'll hear talk about that game in the hallways. Kentucky fans can be proud again of what we saw out of those guys last night. We can allow ourselves to dream big...you know, the way you're supposed to when you're a fan. Hope springs, my friends. There is nothing ugly about that.
    Last edited by Joneslab; 11-13-2024, 07:11 AM.
  • Uncle Dave
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 1979

    #2
    Good stuff Will!! Awesome day to be a Wildcat fan!!!!

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    • Spiritof96
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 13503

      #3
      Love that these are back.
      Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
      ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
      Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
      No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
      RIP: Charlie Munger​

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      • DA#23
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 7342

        #4
        Originally posted by Spiritof96
        Love that these are back.
        Agreed.

        I'm not trying to flatter Will, but I think these summaries are often the best recaps anywhere. Always a good read.

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        • Jload
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2015
          • 2057

          #5
          I would add Pope putting Carr in the 5 spot late as a great coaching move.

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #6
            I mentioned Kon Knueppel's game above. He was 5-20 in that game, which is crazy because it didn't look like he missed a shot until late.

            I'll have to go back and see who neutralized him (Oweh probably), but you can put that in the box of Mark Poe's adjustments. I think it was the old Maravich gameplan of, "Let Cooper go nuts if he wants to, stop everybody else." It took us awhile to get around to doing that, but when we did it put us over the top.

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            • KentuckyWild2020
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2020
              • 4120

              #7
              Very good write up and analysis....

              Suprisingly, we started the game off timid and out of sync, just looked nervous to me. I did not expect that out of a veteran team but for some, probably the biggest game they had ever been a part of. Duke being the young team just showed up and was playing basketball, we seemed to overthinking everything. We didn't move the ball as much on offense, more isolation standing around, not the same offensive movement we had saw the first two games in my opinion.

              As Will mentioned, about 30 minutes in we decided to show up and started playing man basketball, it was the difference. Garrsion lead that charge followed by Carr and all his hustle plays, everything started coming together.

              Not going to lie, at some point I was starting to think that instead of worrying about music, Butler needs to be focused on basketball, glad he was able to turn it around, he sucked for a good 30 minutes he and Robinson.

              Robinson?? Was this the biggest game he's ever played in? Was it because the world was watching and the NBA scouts was all in attendance? Dude was a deer in headlights, hope he gets that out of of his system, he's better than that.

              Brea??? At some point he has to be on the floor when it counts, sorry not sorry, he's more than just a shooter.

              Oweh... He plays man basketball, all you can say...

              The fight and will to win ,never quit, that is the trademark direct from the bloodline of Rick Pitino. It was passed on to Pope, now it's passed on to this team. That mentality is what made Kentucky basketball thrive in the 90's and beyond.


              Super super excited today. Duke will get better but so will we....

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #8
                Butler and Robinson are a little similar in that they both kind of get too cool sometimes. I've noticed Butler will almost just start to float around...which you can't do at his size.

                When he's playing at maximum force and speed he can be a game-wrecker. But when he's not...he can be a liability. When he finally kicked it in last night, the game started to change. I hope Pope can work out some of his (and Robinson's) bad habits as we go forward here because they're both indispensable for where we want to go.

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                • largebluej
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2016
                  • 420

                  #9
                  Great recap as usual Will, but Laettner and the 1992 game were vanquished by Scott Padgett and Cameron Mills in 1998.

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                  • KentuckyWild2020
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2020
                    • 4120

                    #10
                    Beside the WIN last night, Pope just opened up that big time door for recruiting, doubts where erased last night..

                    You have a offensive guru,borderline genius with the name of Kentucky at his back. Cal may be sorry he built the KENTUCKY brand up as much as he did, now we actually have a coach who will teach and develop you for how the game is played at the next level. Calipari's thing has always been building a players mentality for next level NBA, not really the x's and o's of it.

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                    • KentuckyWild2020
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2020
                      • 4120

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Will Lavender
                      Butler and Robinson are a little similar in that they both kind of get too cool sometimes. I've noticed Butler will almost just start to float around...which you can't do at his size.

                      When he's playing at maximum force and speed he can be a game-wrecker. But when he's not...he can be a liability. When he finally kicked it in last night, the game started to change. I hope Pope can work out some of his (and Robinson's) bad habits as we go forward here because they're both indispensable for where we want to go.
                      We need them both and I like them both, just a off game.\

                      Maybe it was a good thing, little bit of a reality check for both players, sure they reflect on it and learn from it...

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #12
                        Originally posted by largebluej
                        Great recap as usual Will, but Laettner and the 1992 game were vanquished by Scott Padgett and Cameron Mills in 1998.
                        My feeling on that is when you win only one important game against them in 26 years, and only two games total...the Laettner shot and what it represents about the rivalry had started to bubble up to the surface.

                        If we could've played them even or close to over the last three decades then you might say last night was reminiscent of some other recent games. But one of the last times we played them they stomped us so bad that it was embarrassing. The rivalry had become pretty close to a laughingstock, tbh.

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                        • KentuckyWild2020
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2020
                          • 4120

                          #13
                          The golden goose unicorn name that has always been mentioned by many is Brad Stevens because of great innovative basketball mind. We have our own version, maybe even more advanced in Pope plus he knows the heartbeat of Kentucky basketball. Right now it's a magic carpet ride....

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                          • 40bill
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 8451

                            #14
                            Super write up. All I want to say is the guy every one of us plus the media said was our BEST player had what??? One point. And this crew won.

                            Great morning in the bluegrass state.

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                            • teamchemistry15
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 7022

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020
                              The golden goose unicorn name that has always been mentioned by many is Brad Stevens because of great innovative basketball mind. We have our own version, maybe even more advanced in Pope plus he knows the heartbeat of Kentucky basketball. Right now it's a magic carpet ride....
                              I've made this comparison to a few friends. Stevens and Pope are both guys that could be successful at anything they wanted to try, they both just decided it would be basketball. I think there's an argument that they're too intelligent to be a basketball coach.

                              In regards to your recruiting comment above, one would certainly think this locks up Caleb Wilson as he was in attendance last night.

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