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  • JFCats22
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 4210

    #16
    He's an idiot. He is a nobody now who can't get a coaching job.

    Just dumb on his part. I would assume, like Chapman, he is no longer welcome back at UK

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    • Joneslab
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 39604

      #17
      Originally posted by J.Jennings

      That's funny you mention the Harrison's pressing Napier and Boatright. I have a friend of mind who's a NCAA ref and he called that out even before that game took place. He just new Kentucky was in trouble before that game even began.
      I think Kentucky tried to play the game the same way they'd won the other games in the tournament. Seems silly to radically overhaul what got you to the championship game before the championship game.

      Anderson's point seems to miss that basketball is a game most of all of match-ups. This is why you can't compare scores in this sport. Louisville beat UCONN badly, we beat Louisville twice, UCONN beat us--it's unpredictable and maddening.

      But so often it comes down to who has the better point guard.

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      • DA#23
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 7342

        #18
        Originally posted by JFCats22
        He's an idiot. He is a nobody now who can't get a coaching job.

        Just dumb on his part. I would assume, like Chapman, he is no longer welcome back at UK
        Seriously, Crazzed?

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        • KevinHall
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 6857

          #19
          If you can't press then you aren't going to do it in the national championship game. The Harrison were just flat out too slow for the UConn guards. If UK had tried to press my guess is that they would have just blown by UK for easy layups instead of hitting jumpers or runners like they did. Anderson should know that and I think he does. He's a Louisville guy who is trying to play both sides of the street. He was on a UL talk show so he sided on what he thought they would want to hear. I suspect if he was on KSR he would say things differently. He just came off as a grouchy old man that was saying in my days things were better and these punk kids now are just no good. I can't stand people like that, that have a big stage like him and I have very little respect for them.
          Last edited by KevinHall; 04-30-2015, 09:34 AM.
          Kentucky fan since 1971.

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          • JFCats22
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 4210

            #20
            Originally posted by J.Jennings
            Bottomline, Cal does everything exactly right in regards to recruiting, reaching out to fans, etc. etc. The only chink in his armor is his X's and O's abilities in the crunch. Love Cal but if he could adjust at this point of his career and make some minor changes, it would make a world of difference.

            Guess you just can't have the best of both worlds............

            I agree, he desperately needs to change. 6 Final Fours (at 3 schools), 3 title game appearances, 1 national title, 600 wins, Hall of Fame induction....there are hundreds, maybe thousands of other guys just like that.

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            • lilproUK98
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 2472

              #21
              Originally posted by Will Lavender

              Not sure why he would. When you build the entire thing on the NBA, you can't try to change their minds after the fact. You can't look at those families with a straight face and say they're not ready. You admit from the very beginning that it will be their choice; you can't turn around at the end and make it your choice.

              Anderson was wrong about virtually everything he said.* Re: the UCONN thing: can you imagine the Harrison twins pressuring Napier and Boatright? Good Lord.

              I chalk it up to just being a fan and disappointment about the season, but it was a terrible platform to air this stuff on. There was a whole lot of 1996 logic used about 2015, and Anderson should have known better.

              * The only thing that comes close is his point about UK walking it up the floor. One thing Cal does that I wish he would change is he allows the other team to dictate tempo. Cal is as much of a plodder than Tubby. Sometimes I think that hurts his teams.

              You absolutely nailed it with every comment here. Took the words and thoughts right out of my head and mouth and then some. Spot on sir.

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              • JFCats22
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 4210

                #22
                Anderson joining KSR today to discuss his comments

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                • Wonderstruck
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 962

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Will Lavender

                  All I've seen Jones say is that it was a dumb thing for Anderson to say and that it was bad form considering how Calipari had helped him.

                  What's untrue about that? It was a dumb thing for Anderson to say; even if you agree in theory, how could Anderson possibly know if Cal is forcing guys to the NBA?
                  You know as well as I do that Jones can say one line and it will get people riled up. He can turn his audience against anybody. Make no mistake, he's got his own agenda to stir up ratings for a pretty meaningless Thursday morning show in late April, and he'll do it at the expense of an all-timer.

                  I don't know if it was dumb or not but I'm not going to pounce on the guy for having a thought.

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                  • JFCats22
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 4210

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Wonderstruck

                    You know as well as I do that Jones can say one line and it will get people riled up. He can turn his audience against anybody. Make no mistake, he's got his own agenda to stir up ratings for a pretty meaningless Thursday morning show in late April, and he'll do it at the expense of an all-timer.

                    I don't know if it was dumb or not but I'm not going to pounce on the guy for having a thought.

                    First off, DA is not an all-timer...really good player definitely, not even close to an all-timer at UK.

                    But, his comments were stupid as hell and totally disrespectful to Cal. Cal has tried to help him and mentor DA into a guy who could coach. Anderson has had huge issues getting into coaching and this shows why. Dude is a complete moron.

                    If you can't see that, well then......

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                    • justafan
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 1407

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Will Lavender
                      ... Cal is as much of a plodder than Tubby. Sometimes I think that hurts his teams.
                      Will, I'm glad you said this. I've said it before, there were always 3 main knocks on Tubby: his lack of enthusiasm for recruitment, his inability to get to the FF after year 1, and his plodding methodical offense.

                      So, now UK has got one of the top recruiters and fans complain that they all go to the NBA.
                      UK has been to 4 FFs in 5 years and fans complain because there is only 1 new banner.

                      About the only complain JWORLD consistently makes that I agree with is the third one - UK should use their "superior athleticism" and run up and down the court. This year with "2 platoons", especially.

                      But that's not the game plan Cal goes with. He tries to hedge his bets by getting his team USED to other teams slowing them down. IMO (which means nothing) I think it bit him in the ass twice now and COULD have happened in 2012.

                      Funny because BCG said at the press conference he was going to run other teams out of the gym by halftime and he did the same plodding. When it was brought up it was "these are the players he was dealt with, not his fault". Except now Cal has HIS players, and he's doing the same thing.

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Wonderstruck
                        You know as well as I do that Jones can say one line and it will get people riled up.
                        This has nothing to do with Jones. Everything to do with Anderson. Kentucky fans are intelligent enough to make their own arguments for or against without interpretation from Matt Jones. Unless I've missed something, Jones has made two pretty innocuous tweets about the incident.

                        I don't think the comments were "dumb." Maybe misinformed. Wrong in a lot of ways. Bad form in some ways. But he wasn't saying anything that other Kentucky fans haven't said since the Wisconsin game.

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                        • TrueblueCATfan
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 16273

                          #27
                          Deener is such a Loserville homer......really surprised at Derek's comments though

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                          • JFCats22
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 4210

                            #28
                            He is on KSR right now and making a big a$$ of himself....just sounding more and more dumb. Said UK fans are taking and interpreting it all the wrong way.

                            Just sounds like an idiot.

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                            • Wonderstruck
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 962

                              #29
                              Originally posted by JFCats22


                              First off, DA is not an all-timer...really good player definitely, not even close to an all-timer at UK.

                              But, his comments were stupid as hell and totally disrespectful to Cal. Cal has tried to help him and mentor DA into a guy who could coach. Anderson has had huge issues getting into coaching and this shows why. Dude is a complete moron.

                              If you can't see that, well then......
                              Well then what? You say his comments were stupid but be honest, how many of your comments on this site are disrespectful towards the players and Cal? DA is allowed, as a fan, to have the same type of gut reactions you do. I don't care if he's a former player with a bigger platform, he's allowed to have that thought, which, by the way, wasn't some outlandish notion that was so out there that it should have caused this type of backlash.

                              We need to get over this notion that because a guy has an opinion, it ventures into this personal grudge. Clearly some in the media, ahem, Matt Jones, decided to run with this and people are flipping out because that's what we do, flip out.

                              What's funny to me is that Lemond agreed with the premise of what DA said and he was afraid to admit it because of Jones' propensity to attack.

                              And by the way, I do consider DA an all-timer. I consider all of those guys from that great era all-timers. I bunch them all together and I don't think I'm wrong in doing so.

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                              • Wonderstruck
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 962

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Will Lavender

                                This has nothing to do with Jones. Everything to do with Anderson. Kentucky fans are intelligent enough to make their own arguments for or against without interpretation from Matt Jones. Unless I've missed something, Jones has made two pretty innocuous tweets about the incident.

                                I don't think the comments were "dumb." Maybe misinformed. Wrong in a lot of ways. Bad form in some ways. But he wasn't saying anything that other Kentucky fans haven't said since the Wisconsin game.
                                As you can gather, I think this has everything to do with Jones. And having that as my baseline really means we're going to be having two totally separate discussions. One on Jones (or more generally, creating controversy for ratings), and one on the actual merits of what DA said, which, under the surface, aren't any crazier than anything any of us have suggested sitting on our couch watching the games.

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