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  • George
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 10355

    #1

    Is Kentucky's shooting a concern?

    Can't lie: Kentucky's shooting is beginning to make me a bit nervous. We appear to have cooled off at the wrong time (though I haven't looked up any stats, so correct me if I'm wrong). Of course, we could see a marked improvement in our very next game, at which point I'll blame it on the Yum! Center rims and be done with it. But for now...yeah, I'm a little nervous.
  • GOCAT15
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 2019

    #2
    I agree, I think I saw where we only shot a worse percent from the field once this year than we did today. Booker has to get it going or I honestly think we are in trouble. You aren't going to be able to hold every team to 50 points.

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    • Spiritof96
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 13503

      #3
      Ultimately we can't win without Booker returning to at least a mediocre version of himself. I believe he will shake it off soon... (hope)
      Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
      ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
      Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
      No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
      RIP: Charlie Munger​

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      • JFCats22
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 4210

        #4
        It's a big concern, IMO. some team is going to get hot and we are going to need our offense to step up.

        After today's game Twiiter went wild for a bit with people saying UK is vulnerable and could easily be beat now. Here's an article from Sporting News saying just that.

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        • Katmendo
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 2278

          #5
          Well, to be honest, this is Cal's coaching results. He gets conservative at the end of games and at the end of seasons.

          He's been demanding the "Tub B Hall" post offense, even when the opponent is playing a packed zone. So, our scoring is dipping.

          Run some plays for the guards. Not just sets where they might end up with a shot if all else fails. Scheme for kick outs, cuts (which we saw one of each today) and screen for them. Quit DEMANDING they post the ball. When they're open, make sure they look to take the good looks, and quit hesitating. All too often, we're catching the ball with plenty of space and our feet aren't even set, because they've been TOLD to post the ball. They need a few more shots each.

          Don't waste another play putting Willie's back to the basket and throwing him the ball. He should be on a triangle formation with orders to kick to one of two guys.

          We're winning, but we're out of balance. A "tweak" and we get right.

          JMO.

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #6
            Originally posted by Katmendo
            Well, to be honest, this is Cal's coaching results. He gets conservative at the end of games and at the end of seasons.

            He's been demanding the "Tub B Hall" post offense, even when the opponent is playing a packed zone. So, our scoring is dipping.

            Run some plays for the guards. Not just sets where they might end up with a shot if all else fails. Scheme for kick outs, cuts (which we saw one of each today) and screen for them. Quit DEMANDING they post the ball. When they're open, make sure they look to take the good looks, and quit hesitating. All too often, we're catching the ball with plenty of space and our feet aren't even set, because they've been TOLD to post the ball. They need a few more shots each.

            Don't waste another play putting Willie's back to the basket and throwing him the ball. He should be on a triangle formation with orders to kick to one of two guys.

            We're winning, but we're out of balance. A "tweak" and we get right.

            JMO.
            Booker missed wide open shots today. Nobody within twenty feet of him.

            Has nothing to do with coaching. I sat there in the Bucket the other day in practice and watch Booker struggle in basic shooting drills. It's in his head.

            Just a funk. It happens, particularly when games get this big.

            If you play somebody like Wisconsin or Duke you can't have shooters clanking. Those games will be played in the 70s and you need those jumpshots to pace you.

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            • Wonderstruck
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 962

              #7
              Here's the deal. One, those rims at the Yum Center certainly have to be described as "tight." Out of all 6 games we saw, 5 of those games saw pretty poor shooting efforts. There is no give. Second, none of these remaining teams in the tournament shoot the ball very well. It's just poor shooting all around in college basketball.

              The difference in Kentucky shooting well from outside and not is the difference between a 12 point win and a 21 point win. Obviously you want that cushion, but we're still double digits better than the opponent, which is hard to come by.

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              • TrueblueCATfan
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 16268

                #8
                Originally posted by Will Lavender

                Booker missed wide open shots today. Nobody within twenty feet of him.

                Has nothing to do with coaching. I sat there in the Bucket the other day in practice and watch Booker struggle in basic shooting drills. It's in his head.

                Just a funk. It happens, particularly when games get this big.

                If you play somebody like Wisconsin or Duke you can't have shooters clanking. Those games will be played in the 70s and you need those jumpshots to pace you.


                He struggled to make shots today in warm ups too

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                • JFCats22
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 4210

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TrueblueCATfan



                  He struggled to make shots today in warm ups too
                  Maybe in warmups he did. At halftime he was hitting a ton, was like 12 of 14 at one point. His shot looks flat to me lately. Hope he figures it out.

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                  • JFCats22
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 4210

                    #10
                    @AaronSmithUA: Devin Booker's 3-point shooting charted. Blue line is a 10-game running average. Red line is 5-game running average http://t.co/YBJStZ9lGX

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                    • George
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 10355

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Katmendo
                      Well, to be honest, this is Cal's coaching results. He gets conservative at the end of games and at the end of seasons.

                      He's been demanding the "Tub B Hall" post offense, even when the opponent is playing a packed zone. So, our scoring is dipping.

                      Run some plays for the guards. Not just sets where they might end up with a shot if all else fails. Scheme for kick outs, cuts (which we saw one of each today) and screen for them. Quit DEMANDING they post the ball. When they're open, make sure they look to take the good looks, and quit hesitating. All too often, we're catching the ball with plenty of space and our feet aren't even set, because they've been TOLD to post the ball. They need a few more shots each.

                      Don't waste another play putting Willie's back to the basket and throwing him the ball. He should be on a triangle formation with orders to kick to one of two guys.

                      We're winning, but we're out of balance. A "tweak" and we get right.

                      JMO.
                      Cal's coaching isn't the reason why our guys (not just Booker) missed shots. We're getting open looks, but the ball just isn't going in.

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #12
                        I haven't noticed too much poor shooting recently outside of Booker. Aaron heated up in the NCAA Tournament. Andrew's been great. I think it's mostly a Booker issue.

                        Our three-point attempts usually fall between 10 and 15. The last six or seven games we've hit an average of about 4. That's 35% or so, which is decent and will make it very hard to beat us.

                        But the thing about Booker is that we look for him. When this team was really going good, he was a major part of it because we run so well. We can get out on you and put so much pressure on teams on the run, and when we do that we're looking for either the alley-oop or Booker spotting up. Those shots are what break games open.

                        Also if he's missing it puts a lot more pressure on Aaron, because you can't have both your wings missing.

                        But I'm not sure it's a teamwide thing or just him. We didn't shoot well today from anywhere but that's kind of what Cincinnati does.

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                        • Westtncat
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 2031

                          #13
                          There are several teams that would have made this close today, there are some that would have beaten us today. Just gotta have the bad game against the right teams. That being said, we are unbeaten but not unbeatable. We never were. We have concerns just like all teams do. We need to forget about the hype and the record and just play ball. I think a lot of our shooting woes are nerves. Think about it, how many tournaments has Willie played in as a junior? Its nerves. Gotta suck it up and play or go home.

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                          • Matt Dillon
                            Administrator
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 49610

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Wonderstruck

                            The difference in Kentucky shooting well from outside and not is the difference between a 12 point win and a 21 point win. Obviously you want that cushion, but we're still double digits better than the opponent, which is hard to come by.
                            I agree, Wonderstruck. Undefeated and cruising along, yet some fans feel the need to diagnose the team's "woes". This could only happen with UK bb, I guess.
                            Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                            • Joneslab
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 39604

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Westtncat
                              There are several teams that would have made this close today, there are some that would have beaten us today. Just gotta have the bad game against the right teams. That being said, we are unbeaten but not unbeatable. We never were. We have concerns just like all teams do. We need to forget about the hype and the record and just play ball. I think a lot of our shooting woes are nerves. Think about it, how many tournaments has Willie played in as a junior? Its nerves. Gotta suck it up and play or go home.
                              I don't think Booker's issues are nerves. This has been going on for awhile and didn't just start in the tournament.

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