I don’t want to take someone’s heart away

[lilproUK98]

That quote and draft helped recruiting for a few years, but it has also caused the demise of Cal's "system"

Without Anthony Davis Cal just has a few final hours and a lot of draft picks. This is not trending positively.

[surveyor]

I didn’t mind the comment when he made it because I assumed he was doing it to try and land great players going forward.

But it’s interesting that if you think about that quote, it does really cut directly to the problems in the program a decade after he said it, the main one being the NBA became the point and purpose of Kentucky basketball.

And there was a bit of push back from fans hereon and other boards for that comment, too, IIRC.

[Matt Dillon]

There are a lot of UK kids in the NBA but There are a lot more that didn't go to UK.

Obviously, since there are 120 some D1 schools, what you say is true, but UK has more former players in the NBA than any other school.

[Blue Heaven]

Go on a trip and come back to all this. I thought this stuff was getting behind us. Sheesh. I am not even watching the game. Straight delete.

[bigbluebob]

I don't think the 1 and done players are the problem.... in fact God bless them, go make more money than I can even fathom!
The problem as I see it is because of 2 other type players.

#1 - The quitters! Juzang, Greene, Baker, Killeya Jones, Mathews, Wiltjer etc.., etc.
I know people on this board always wish them luck, but I for one would rather never here their names again, I don't wish them good luck and I don't wish them bad luck. If they don't want to be here...just go away. They've wasted enough time and energy of the coaching staff not to mention resources of the University.

#2 - The Boneheads! Johnson, Montgomery, Whitney, Haggans, Briscoe, Humphreys etc., etc.. Even though it has worked out for a couple of these guys, and I'm glad of that, just think if they each would have stayed another year. Put Haggen and EJ on this team and we wouldn't be missing the tournament this year!

If we could just cut these early departures in half I think it would make all the difference in the world.
Would we miss out on some recruits? Probably, but we can't have it both ways.

[Joneslab]

^ Don’t think I’d put Keldon Johnson in that group. He’s averaging about 15 a game right now.

[Catsrock]

I don't think the 1 and done players are the problem.... in fact God bless them, go make more money than I can even fathom!
The problem as I see it is because of 2 other type players.

#1 - The quitters! Juzang, Greene, Baker, Killeya Jones, Mathews, Wiltjer etc.., etc.
I know people on this board always wish them luck, but I for one would rather never here their names again, I don't wish them good luck and I don't wish them bad luck. If they don't want to be here...just go away. They've wasted enough time and energy of the coaching staff not to mention resources of the University.

#2 - The Boneheads! Johnson, Montgomery, Whitney, Haggans, Briscoe, Humphreys etc., etc.. Even though it has worked out for a couple of these guys, and I'm glad of that, just think if they each would have stayed another year. Put Haggen and EJ on this team and we wouldn't be missing the tournament this year!

If we could just cut these early departures in half I think it would make all the difference in the world.
Would we miss out on some recruits? Probably, but we can't have it both ways.

There have been transfers that I just flat out could not blame. Guys who I don’t think we’re given a fair shake because others were being given all the minutes due to more stars as high school recruits. But I’m with you...some of these guys, including some you have mentioned, were getting ample opportunity and could have developed into stars. I don’t know what drove a Juzang away if there were something that attracted him here in the first place. But—I’ve never lived in Cal’s environment. Seems it’s no longer just “not for everyone.” Maybe it’s “not for hardly anyone.”

[justford]

^ Don’t think I’d put Keldon Johnson in that group. He’s averaging about 15 a game right now.

Maybe he is referring to Dakari Johnson

[Joneslab]

Maybe he is referring to Dakari Johnson

Yep, I bet he was. Forgot about Dakari.

[DA#23]

^ There are fans that mention they can’t remember all of the players do to the revolving door that is UK’s roster.

Didn’t think I’d see it happen to Will.

[George]

^ There are fans that mention they can’t remember all of the players do to the revolving door that is UK’s roster.

Didn’t think I’d see it happen to Will.

Hell, I rattled off a list of current players yesterday and forgot about Keion.

[DA#23]

Maybe you were assuming the mysterious injury would linger all season long....

[bigbluebob]

Yes I meant Dakari. He is one that not only would he have benefited tremendously, but the team would have also.

Catsrock I agree, I can't blame some of them.
That's what Call needs to address.
Like I said if we could keep half of these 2 groups around we'd still be young but much more experienced.

[Joneslab]

Team We Hardly Knew Ye:

G Marquis Teague
G Hami Diallo
F Trey Lyles
F Jarred Vanderbilt
C Daniel Orton

[bigbluebob]

Here's a spreadsheet I keep.

*****The Coach Calipari Era*****
2010	2011	2012
1. John Wall	3. Enes Kanter	1. Anthony Davis
5. DeMarcus Cousins	8. Brandon Knight	2. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
14. Patrick Patterson	45. Josh Harrellson	18. Terrence Jones
18. Eric Bledsoe	53. DeAndre Liggins	29. Marquis Teague
29. Daniel Orton		42. Doron Lamb
		46. Darius Miller
2013	2014	2015
6. Nerlens Noel	7. Julius Randle	1. Karl-Anthony Towns
29. Archie Goodwin	17. James Young	6. Willie Cauley-Stein
		12. Trey Lyles
		13. Devin Booker
		44. Andrew Harrison
		48. Dakari Johnson
2016	2017	2018
7. Jamal Murray	5.De’Aaron Fox	9. Kevin Knox
28. Skal Labissiere	11. Malik Monk	11. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
34. Tyler Ulis	14. Bam Adebayo	41. Jarred Vanderbilt
		45.Hamidou Diallo
2019	2020	2021
12. PJ Washington	21. Tyrese Maxey
13. Tyler Herro	25. Immanuel Quickley
29. Keldon Johnson	42. Nick Richards
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