Why are we or anyone else still trying to play sports in the middle of a pandemic. It is unconscionable IMO . We as a society have about reached the point where Russell Crowe should walk out before every sports event and ask over the PA “ Are you not entertained†And before you say the risk is minimal ask the kid from Florida’s parents how they feel about the “let the games go on†attitude. Everyone is on Coach K about his statements, I applaud him. The guy himself is a prime candidate to die if he gets it, and maybe a guy that’s won more games than anybody else really is thinking about the safety of his kids. The truth is we don’t know enough about this virus to say wether playing now is safe or not. Why not shut all the sports down until we can. I hope some kid or coach doesn’t have to DIE before we see sanity here.
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While I agree with your sentiments generally, I think its important to note that people are giving K hell not because of what hes saying, but because he is only saying it because his team sucks.
K wouldnt be advocating shutting it down if they were 5-0 and Zion was roaming the sidelines. Hes a frontrunner, hes dishonest and he only cares about his legacy. -
I haven't seen anything about the cause of the Fl. player's illness. At this point, I don't have any idea whether or not it's COVID-19 related.Philippians 4:11-4:13Comment
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Sure, remove the adult athlete's right to choose what they do with their life and the risks they find acceptable.
A. We don't know the cause of the FL player's problem.
B. He would not be the first basketball player to "collapse" during practice or game. (tragic as that is)
C. He was free to opt out this year if he wanted to at no penalty other than the loss of time.
FYI, we can be certain that life isn't safe.
Originally posted by John Stuart MillRIP: Charlie Munger​Originally posted by Robert “Hoot†GibsonComment
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If it is determined that his collapse was in any way related to COVID, basketball will be shut down. Legally, these schools arent gambling.
Sure, remove the adult athlete's right to choose what they do with their life and the risks they find acceptable.
A. We don't know the cause of the FL player's problem.
B. He would not be the first basketball player to "collapse" during practice or game. (tragic as that is)
C. He was free to opt out this year if he wanted to at no penalty other than the loss of time.
FYI, we can be certain that life isn't safe.Comment
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Why? Thousands of college student athletes had Covid in the summer and went on to practice and play their sport.
Are we supposed to never play a sport again after we recover from Covid?
It’s sad if some Covid related damage kills a kid months after the fact but near impossible to control for.Originally posted by John Stuart MillRIP: Charlie Munger​Originally posted by Robert “Hoot†GibsonComment
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Last edited by Spiritof96; 12-15-2020, 09:53 AM.Originally posted by John Stuart MillRIP: Charlie Munger​Originally posted by Robert “Hoot†GibsonComment
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The idea of playing organized sports during a global pandemic in inherently idiotic. But there is too much money at stake.Comment
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If Johnson dies and an autopsy reveals that it was a heart issue caused (even partially) by COVID, his family can and will sue the University of Florida. And they'll win.
Whether or not you're right about the inherent risk and choice involved, you dont think the thought of being held legally responsible for these kids dying scares the presidents of all these universities?Comment
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They can certainly sue and they will loose although UF wouldn't care for the negative publicity. I guarantee you UK Athletics is more concerned about it's 35 million dollar covid driven financial shortfall than they are random frivolous lawsuits for things they can't possibly be liable for.Last edited by Spiritof96; 12-15-2020, 09:54 AM.Originally posted by John Stuart MillRIP: Charlie Munger​Originally posted by Robert “Hoot†GibsonComment
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What, I didn't emote enough for your liking?
Irrespective of how much anyone feels about the situation it doesn't alter the facts of the situation. The tragic circumstances of that young man's health problem has almost nothing to do with your original, nigh nonsensical point.
If you think we shouldn't do sports because covid. Fine.
If you think someone having covid six months ago, playing a sport, and collapsing due to an unknown cause says something meaningful about the morality of adults playing sports in spite of Covid... well that is irrational and reactionary.Last edited by Spiritof96; 12-14-2020, 11:32 PM.Originally posted by John Stuart MillRIP: Charlie Munger​Originally posted by Robert “Hoot†GibsonComment
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You don’t need to emote, maybe just acknowledge that it is infinitely easier to make decisions that affect others lives when one has no skin in the game. As for all the folks savaging K despite the fact that HE is risking his life and his health to coach these kids not them. I never said definitively that the kid from Florida’s case is directly related to Covid only that it might be. Since you like facts, the cold hard facts are Covid HAS killed some younger adults, not many but some and nobody has a clue why. Covid HAS caused heart problems post secondary to the illness in some young otherwise perfectly healthy young adults again nobody has a clue why. So my question is why we are holding games that ARE putting people’s lives at stake for the sake of entertainment, because in the end that’s what sport is at that level. If we were sending these young people out to defend the nation form invaders that would be one thing, even if sports were vital somehow to the national interest I might could understand it, but college and. High School sports are neither, they are entertainment mediums so what in the world are we doing here.Comment
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The college "young people" in question are adults and more likely to die in a DUI related incident than from Covid-19. The are perfectly capable of making their own decisions about the level of risk they are willing to take on.
The high school kids are kids and have legal guardians that are capable of working with their kids to make their own decisions about risk without some third party hand wringing or taking the decision out of their hands.
My kids play sports. We decided as parents that the pros of playing outweighed the very low risks they faced. (others may decide differently)
Months later our entire household got covid. Not from playgrounds, not from sports, but from the Mrs. workplace "hero's work here"... whatever. What are we supposed to do now that we have recovered? Live sedentary lives for an indeterminate amount of time in fear of an unknowable phantom side effect? That would be stupid.
There are no guarantees in life, you weigh the risks, you make the best decisions you can and live with the outcome. In my view "Safety" is not preferable to living with acceptable risk, especially when tomorrow isn't promised to anyone. Humanity has always faced an unsafe and difficult world and we delude ourselves into thinking it's inherently safe and we are owed tomorrow because our wealth, energy availability, and technology have rendered our lives safer and easier than at any point in human history.
Covid-19 is a novel virus but what it means for people isn't really new. We are just forgetful of how how precious, fragile, and short our days are.
All that is to say, I don't begrudge you your risk choices, but perhaps you can pump the breaks or making pronouncements about other peoples freedom and hand wringing because some people want to live their lives and enjoy their fleeting 4 years of involvement that will never come around again.Originally posted by John Stuart MillRIP: Charlie Munger​Originally posted by Robert “Hoot†GibsonComment
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