Given how many of our fans lost their over Cal playing golf with Barack Obama, it's not surprising that the same people lose their minds over black basketball players saying their lives matter.
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More than Nick Cannon specifically, I think what surveyor is pointing out is the idea of what "Black Lives Matter" means. Cannon himself is inconsequential. I've seen many other people say versions of the same thing.
Black Lives Matter is a lot of things. It's a slogan. It's a political movement. It's a bunch of stuff.
I don't like to support political organizations that give money to either party because I think there's a lot of graft involved in that. Both political parties in this country have done all kinds of nefarious things as they pretend to stand up for organizations that seemingly have a message of goodwill. And of course I'm sure there are some in that movement who know they can get rich by milking the political party. Graft goes both ways.
But just as a basic slogan, as an idea, I support BLM because I think black people need some support from white people. As we've become more political and entrenched in partisanship, one thing that's gotten lost is how we reach out to people who are unlike us and try to offer them our understanding and compassion.Comment
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Will I am in agreement with your sentiment but it seems that has been lost on use organization itself. Police brutality in itself could be an issue we could address. More white people are killed by cops every year than blacks. But can this be addressed? Absolutely not because if it is you come off as not caring about black lives. So let's address blacks killed by cops and blacks only. Also let's only be outraged by the loss of black life if it happens at the hands of police.
People try and take such a moral high horse as if they are the ones that really care about black lives because they can say they support this movement when in reality black lives have much bigger obstacles.Comment
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You have to do some population adjusting to get into the real problem here with blacks and the police rather than raw numbers, but what the UK basketball team did was really not a response to that. It was very specific and discussed a few specific incidents. That video also said an important thing, which was that whites and blacks needed to come together.
I just don't think there was a whole lot to it. It wasn't that controversial unless your sensitivity meter is up to begin with.
In America we have this problem of going so far outside the constraints of where we started with in our response to issues that we turn the issue into something else entirely. The BLM protests started in a good place and have gotten real bloated over the weeks and months. But also the response to those protests has gotten completely out of hand. Americans always overshoot the target by so much because we get so emotionally wrapped in these issues--and because we're so damn partisan that we refuse to bend at all. On anything. Ever.Comment
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No it's not, if you're gonna ******************** about the framing then perhaps you should stop citing things that didn't happen.
The injustices in the police brutality happen almost singularly to black people, hence the origin of saying Black Lives Matter. If you don't like the organization then fine, but players saying they feel society values the lives of black people less than that of whites isn't an embrace of marxism or whatever complaint you guys have.Comment
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I don't agree. You basically implied people'were upset because a group of basketball players said their lives mattered. I was talking about the organization. You kinda proved my point that discussion is almost impossible. Hey look that guy is upset that black kids want to live. Just stupidity!Comment
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Regardless of whether Cannon said it or your Uncle Shmobert said it, it puts it in the proper perspective.
Really? People are being killed and beaten for say All Lives Matter?
When you're at a birthday party for someone, do you interrupt them and say, "Hey! We have birthdays too! What about us? ALL birthdays matter."Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.
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There has been several murders and over a billion dollars in damages on the heels of blm. I really don't get why some people are just oblivious to this. Anyway I don't'support Cal coming out for this. It's not what you think it is. It's political. I don't see it as a true cause for blacks.Comment
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Of course you don't, you can't separate the protests from the hangers on using it to cause havoc. Back in the summer protests it was shown alt-right groups were behind some of them, others were people funneling in during the chaos.
If you bothered to look you'd see the numerous condemnations from black protesters and politicians.Comment
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Dwight you believe what you want. You are now talking about alt right groups being behind some of the protest. You had an issue with my original post obviously. You made a ridiculous statement that implied number one I had an issue with Cal golfing with Obama and so therefore the same people (me) were upset with black kids caring about their lives. Now you are taking what you want'from my post because you know what I mean even if I don't say it?
Have a nice day.
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