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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #1

    The Good, The Bad, The Ugly: Florida Edition

    The Good

    * In 2007, I Sat at the SEC Tournament and Listened to a Woman Do the Gator Chomp for Two and a Half Hours Straight. I Have Never Forgotten. Folks, it's always good to beat Florida. Always. Yeah, this isn't Billy Donovan's Florida anymore. Heck, it's not even Lon Kruger's Florida. But that's a W Kentucky had to have to keep the train rolling, and the Cats got it.

    * Quickley for POY? Yeah, I hear you saying "Terrence Jones" or "Deandre Liggins" or even "Darius Miller," but for my money Immanuel Quickley is the most improved player of the Cal era. Last year he looked like nothing more than a serviceable back-up point guard without the speed or consistency to register much at the D1 level. Now he looks like an elite college guard, the sort of guy who could really take a team on his back and drive them through the tournament. He has turned into a bona fide star at Kentucky and honestly it's one of the sweetest surprises of the Cal era.

    * Maxed In. Tyrese Maxey was really good yesterday, and continues to be one of the more explosive and powerful guards Cal has had in transition. He's a consistent jumpshot away from being a phenom, but I doubt if we ever see that at Kentucky.

    * Blooming Seed. So here we sit with four games to play having only 5 losses, alone at the top of the SEC, and on a pretty significant winning streak. To my surprise--maybe even shock--this is a team that's positioned itself fairly well in terms of seed. I hate to look ahead, but if this team wins its last four then they should be looking at a 2/3, and while seed matters less this year than it ever has, it will still be a pretty significant accomplishment for a very rough-around-the-edges type of team.

    * A Fence, Electrified. Man, how good was Kentucky's second-half D last night? At times it looked like Florida just wanted to go home to their mommies. All the good Cal teams have been able to defend like that, and unfortunately we haven't seen it too much this season from Kentucky. But they really clamped down in the last 20 minutes of that game, and if they have any hope of March magic, that's the way they'll have to defend. Just not enough top-shelf offensive players to outscore people.

    * The Stars of Stripe Kentucky didn't get to the foul line nearly enough yesterday, but when they did they connected on all 10. This team is on a historic level with their free throws, and as we all know that's a great sign for March. UConn had two flawed title teams that won national titles with (1) elite guard play and (2) historic free throw shooting.

    * Good E.J. Speaking of defense: I really, really liked E.J. in that second half last night. The guy made defensive stop after defensive stop, and then when we really needed a basket he swooped in and picked up a loose ball and stuck it in the basket. E.J. is one of the more inconsistent players of the Cal era, but there are times this year when he's been a fiend defensively. Unfortunately there are times when he's...

    The Bad

    * ....Bad E.J. First-half E.J. was a disaster last night. Got driven by multiple times. Didn't register in the game at all after knocking down an early 17-footer. As good as he was in the second half, he was equally as bad in the first. I'd like to say that's a phenomenon that will stop, but at this point in the season it's clear that E.J. is going to continue to be up and down.

    * Swag Monster. I listened to Cal a little bit in the postgame talk with Tom Leach last night. Yes, he's swaggy. It's that time of year. The only problem: when we get Swaggy Cal, we usually don't come out as sharp the next game. I hope that doesn't happen on Tuesday night, because this road game in College Station has "letdown game" all over it.

    * Disconnect Four. Our power forward position remains sketchy, particularly on the defensive end. Before E.J.'s nice run, the 4's Cal put out there--Brooks, Sestina, First Half E.J.--were abysmal. Sestina couldn't guard a toddler. Brooks got blown by at least twice. Bad E.J. might as well have been wearing a Florida jersey. That spot remains a problem on this team, and I don't see any way we make a run unless we find some consistency there.

    * Halfcourt Woes. Kentucky's offense didn't look great yesterday, and if Quickley or Maxey weren't getting it done it didn't get done at all. The zone baffled us a bit in the second half, but just generally we weren't really clicking all day. Didn't get to the foul line enough, turned it over too much, couldn't get the ball inside the way we generally do. Just a ragged game offensively for Kentucky after we really lit up the nets in Baton Rouge.

    Home Front. My son tore his MCL this past week. He was really looking forward to playing in his first district tournament, but it looks like he'll probably be out tomorrow night. Stinks.

    The Ugly

    * Endgame. What's going on with Kentucky to close out games? We're handling the press at the end like we're putting together one of those What Not to Do instructional videos for coaching clinics. At this point I expect yakety sax to start playing as we inbound the ball. With guys who can shoot foul shots like this team can, you would think we wouldn't play with so much fear at the end.

    * Point Guard, You? Ashton Hagans didn't have a good game last night. Yeah, he came up with one of the game's biggest plays with that steal and hit-ahead to Maxey. But his floor game was pretty rough to watch. He overdribbled, he worked himself into unwinnable spots on the court, and he generally just couldn't get the team settled. Six turnovers is way too many in a home game against an average team. Hagans hasn't had the year many hoped, and he's another guy you can look at and say, "If he doesn't get it going, Kentucky is a real longshot to make a run."
  • 40bill
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 8451

    #2
    Man, sorry about your son. That blows in sooooooo many ways. Best of wishes to him in his rehab.

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    • TrueblueCATfan
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 16272

      #3
      Sorry about your son Will.....here's to a speedy recovery

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      • Jeff ROCKober
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 420

        #4
        That stinks about your son. Cal's teams have always seemed to struggle inbounding and what's worse, they defend the inbounds even worse.

        A good win though.

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        • Catsrock
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 5560

          #5
          Like the others have said...really sorry about your son. Hope he recovers fully. To look on the bright side...better now than a few months ago when he could have lost a whole season.

          I'm with you on Quickly. Stud guard.

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          • Lighthouse
            Gone But Never Forgotten
            • Oct 2014
            • 35962

            #6
            I really hate to hear about your son Will. I was looking forward to watching him in district play.

            Another good and accurate report on the game.
            Last edited by Lighthouse; 02-23-2020, 02:53 PM.
            John 3:3

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            • J.Jennings
              Banned
              • Oct 2014
              • 7005

              #7
              Sorry about your son. The good we beat Florida the bad need to take nerve pills the last minute of the game, me and the players...

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              • Blue Heaven
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 6283

                #8
                Hate to hear that about your boy. At least it wasn't worse like an acl.
                Isaiah 5:20

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                • justford
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 4669

                  #9
                  Sorry about your son but he will bounce back from quickly as youth is a wonderful thing.
                  Cal said the out of bound plays were on him as he had been running those for 30 years but for some reason the plays weren’t working for this group. He was going to have to come up with something different.

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                  • Joneslab
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 39604

                    #10
                    Originally posted by justford
                    Sorry about your son but he will bounce back from quickly as youth is a wonderful thing.
                    Cal said the out of bound plays were on him as he had been running those for 30 years but for some reason the plays weren’t working for this group. He was going to have to come up with something different.
                    He said that one of the problems was the inbounds passer looking right at the guy he was going to pass it to. You have to look in one direction and pass in the other so that the defender doesn't sit on the pass.

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                    • Joneslab
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 39604

                      #11
                      Strangely the inability to inbounds the ball against pressure thing has come up before with Kentucky. In fact we were talking about it about last year's team right around this time. I remember a couple of games late where Herro, Hagans and others had horrendous time getting the ball in.

                      Here's a thread where we--well, at least I was--were talking about it after the Tennessee loss in the SEC Tournament.

                      Hope no one minds me starting this thread a little early. Wanted to stop in and say hey since I likely won't be around much the rest of the day. Heading over to a friend's to help them get ready for a wedding... May even miss some UT basketball for the first time all season. Terrible timing... ?????? Anyway, after

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                      • Blue Heaven
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 6283

                        #12
                        The "Cal just rolls the ball out" guys looks to examples like our inability to inbounds a pass. They use to use are FT shooting as well but can't this year so it's all about the inbounds. I could've swore some years ago that Cal said they don't practice them and he took a lot of heat for it.
                        Isaiah 5:20

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                        • Catatonic
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 2913

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blue Heaven
                          The"Cal just rolls the ball out" guys looks to examples like our inability to inbounds a pass. They use to use are FT shooting as well but can't this year so it's all about the inbounds. I could've swore some years ago that Cal said they don't practice them and he took a lot of heat for it.
                          If I remember correctly Cal said he didn't want to waste precious practice time on stuff like free throws, but guys are in the gym practicing shooting all the time outside of practice as is expected of them.

                          Imagine being one of the absolute best in your profession, and still being second guessed over every little thing all the time.

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                          • Joneslab
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 39604

                            #14
                            I've always assumed Kentucky was kind of average from the free throw line because Cal didn't recruit natural shooters a whole lot. Athletes, multi-dimensional players, positionless players, etc.--those are the guys Cal usually brings in. Those aren't your great free throw shooters by and large. Plus, we're always young.

                            The interesting thing about this team though is that it has shown that it can't really shoot from outside that well, but we've got guys who step up and knock down foul shots. Of course you have Quickley leading the way, but Ashton Hagans is at a very solid 80%. Tyrese Maxey, a guy who's a sub-30% three-point shooter, is 82% from the foul line.

                            Really unusual team in that way.

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                            • Dwight Schrute
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 18716

                              #15
                              The other thing about this team is how it doesn't blow out any teams but also doesn't get blown out. The biggest loss all year was to Auburn and that was a close game until the free throws put it out of reach.

                              It's just hard to really tell if this team has what it takes or it doesn't.

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