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  • KCKUKFan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 14228

    #106
    Originally posted by Ratt


    Sorry but this is on Cal. UK was handling this team easily in the 1st half. Running plays, pushing the ball, getting the ball to Richards. Was constantly a 9 - 12 point lead and TT had no answer whatsoever... 2nd half comes and he take the air out of the ball and stalls the game. THIS team can not play that slow down ball - it happens every single game and it takes the offensive rhythm out of the team. I was hoping for Cal to get thrown out again in the 2nd half. HE's got to stop doing this. It's going to cost them in the tournament. Mark it down.
    This isn't a very good take. Not once did I see Cal take the air out of the ball, at least not to Wisconsin extent. In the last ten minutes, we just had some really, really stupid turnovers and shots. If anything, there were times when Hagans and Maxey pushed too hard. To be fair to Ashton, he controlled the entire game defensively.

    This was an excellent performance overall, and a win in that environment is a sign of good things to come.

    And with all due respect to Lighthouse, college officiating keeps getting more inconsistent and embarrassing. We were bad in the last ten minutes, the refs were AWFUL.


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    • samsdad
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 258

      #107
      Maxey needs to stop playing hero ball. This team can win the championship.

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      • Ratt
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 816

        #108
        Originally posted by KCKUKFan

        This isn't a very good take. Not once did I see Cal take the air out of the ball, at least not to Wisconsin extent. In the last ten minutes, we just had some really, really stupid turnovers and shots. If anything, there were times when Hagans and Maxey pushed too hard. To be fair to Ashton, he controlled the entire game defensively.

        This was an excellent performance overall, and a win in that environment is a sign of good things to come.

        And with all due respect to Lighthouse, college officiating keeps getting more inconsistent and embarrassing. We were bad in the last ten minutes, the refs were AWFUL.

        Then obviously you haven't been watching the 2nd halves of games lately.... Get a 6-9 point lead, go into the high post slow down offense with either Maxey or Quickly constantly running around by the baseline while everyone else stands around.... Totally slowing the game down to eat clock instead of just letting them play... Yes - Maxey/Hagens had some bad possessions but often that's caused from this terrible offense.

        IT was a good win in a rough environment with terrible officiating, no doubt and a good win at that. Hagans defensively at the end of the game saved the game more than once with his defense. He gets burned sometimes but he really buckled in late and shut them down.

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        • TrueblueCATfan
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 16268

          #109
          What a great road win.....and WOW Nick Richards

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          • Dwight Schrute
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 18716

            #110
            I watched the game in a public place without sound so I don’t feel qualified to comment on the officiating, but some of the block/charge calls seemed...suspect.

            Have seen the point made that on the biggest Saturday of the regular season the comment is how bad officiating has been across the board. That isn’t good.

            Love the win though. Going into a place that jacked up and leaving with a win is fantastic.

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            • Lighthouse
              Gone But Never Forgotten
              • Oct 2014
              • 35962

              #111
              Originally posted by KCKUKFan

              This isn't a very good take. Not once did I see Cal take the air out of the ball, at least not to Wisconsin extent. In the last ten minutes, we just had some really, really stupid turnovers and shots. If anything, there were times when Hagans and Maxey pushed too hard. To be fair to Ashton, he controlled the entire game defensively.

              This was an excellent performance overall, and a win in that environment is a sign of good things to come.

              And with all due respect to Lighthouse, college officiating keeps getting more inconsistent and embarrassing. We were bad in the last ten minutes, the refs were AWFUL.
              I don't disagree with your take. The officials didn't have their best game by far. When I see an official in perfect position to see a play as it happens and then make the offensive foul call on Hagans, he's not having a good game. There was contact, but certainly not enough to knock the defense down, but just enough to not call a flop. That was a play on at best. But to their defense, the over and back call was correct because we made a controlled pass in front court and Richards left the floor from back court and touched the ball before he landed on front court. It was very inconsistent tonight.
              John 3:3

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              • Dwight Schrute
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 18716

                #112
                It just seems like it’s inconsistent from half to half most every game. Coaches say the same thing too.

                I hate calling the officiating garbage because these are people with families, but between the inconsistencies in what’s a foul, the seemingly arbitrary judgement calls of the block/charge, constant monitor checks, stupid flagrant 1/2 stuff...it’s just not good and college basketball is worse for it.

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                • Matt Dillon
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 49610

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Lighthouse

                  If you're talking about the offensive foul called on Hagans, you are right.
                  That's the one.
                  Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                  • teamchemistry15
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 7022

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Ratt


                    Then obviously you haven't been watching the 2nd halves of games lately.... Get a 6-9 point lead, go into the high post slow down offense with either Maxey or Quickly constantly running around by the baseline while everyone else stands around.... Totally slowing the game down to eat clock instead of just letting them play... Yes - Maxey/Hagens had some bad possessions but often that's caused from this terrible offense.

                    IT was a good win in a rough environment with terrible officiating, no doubt and a good win at that. Hagans defensively at the end of the game saved the game more than once with his defense. He gets burned sometimes but he really buckled in late and shut them down.
                    Isn't Cal something crazy like 280-7 when he gets a ten point lead?

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                    • KCKUKFan
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 14228

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Lighthouse

                      I don't disagree with your take. The officials didn't have their best game by far. When I see an official in perfect position to see a play as it happens and then make the offensive foul call on Hagans, he's not having a good game. There was contact, but certainly not enough to knock the defense down, but just enough to not call a flop. That was a play on at best. But to their defense, the over and back call was correct because we made a controlled pass in front court and Richards left the floor from back court and touched the ball before he landed on front court. It was very inconsistent tonight.
                      Joe DeRosa, in particular.
                      Last edited by KCKUKFan; 01-26-2020, 08:25 AM.

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                      • KCKUKFan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 14228

                        #116
                        Originally posted by teamchemistry15

                        Isn't Cal something crazy like 280-7 when he gets a ten point lead?
                        He is. Complaining just to complain is a bad look.

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                        • teamchemistry15
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 7022

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Lighthouse

                          I don't disagree with your take. The officials didn't have their best game by far. When I see an official in perfect position to see a play as it happens and then make the offensive foul call on Hagans, he's not having a good game. There was contact, but certainly not enough to knock the defense down, but just enough to not call a flop. That was a play on at best. But to their defense, the over and back call was correct because we made a controlled pass in front court and Richards left the floor from back court and touched the ball before he landed on front court. It was very inconsistent tonight.
                          Regarding the back court violation, Hagans gained possession, passed, I believe it was deflected by Tech, deflected by UK, then Nick jumped and caught it to throw it back over. If Tech in fact did deflect it, would Richards not be allowed to just grab it even if he was behind the line? I understand if they didn't touch the ball it was the correct call, but I thought they did.

                          Note about that call that you'll often see people freak out about because they don't understand the rule: Both feet AND the ball have to cross the line in order for it to be a violation. If a guy dribbling up court stops with one foot and the ball over the line and turns around to go back that's legal.

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                          • Lighthouse
                            Gone But Never Forgotten
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 35962

                            #118
                            Originally posted by teamchemistry15

                            Regarding the back court violation, Hagans gained possession, passed, I believe it was deflected by Tech, deflected by UK, then Nick jumped and caught it to throw it back over. If Tech in fact did deflect it, would Richards not be allowed to just grab it even if he was behind the line? I understand if they didn't touch the ball it was the correct call, but I thought they did.

                            Note about that call that you'll often see people freak out about because they don't understand the rule: Both feet AND the ball have to cross the line in order for it to be a violation. If a guy dribbling up court stops with one foot and the ball over the line and turns around to go back that's legal.
                            I could be wrong but I think we were the last to touch the ball before Richards, and because he took off from back court it was over and back. The controlled pass established front court status for us
                            John 3:3

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                            • teamchemistry15
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 7022

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Lighthouse

                              I could be wrong but I think we were the last to touch the ball before Richards, and because he took off from back court it was over and back. The controlled pass established front court status for us
                              So, if team A controls possession, team B deflects pass, and team A bobbles said pass and it goes over the line the deflection of team A nullifies team B deflecting it? I thought the original deflection by team B might mean there's no possession so it would've been legal.

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                              • tamme11
                                Junior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 31

                                #120
                                [QUOTE=Ratt;n221406]




                                the trying to foul out Maxey when he picked up his 4th --- they were doing whatever they could to get TT the win. Absolutely terrible and should be called out for it.


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