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You do realize that outside of the Kentucky fan base we are the laughing stock of college basketball right, nobody fears Kentucky anymore. We are known as the team with good players with a Coach who can't coach, whether that's true or not is debatable but that's how other teams and fans look at us.Cal has had all these NBA players in his 10 years who now play in the NBA and what has it brought to Kentucky in regards to NCAA Championships, 1???That is the same amount of titles for other teams who's players are now working in the real world life after basketball...
Furthermore, don't be mad at me for calling it out, Cal was the guy talking about UCLA championships and all that, not me. He's the guy bragging out his millionaires in the NBA, not me. He's the guy that meets with teams in the offseason then comes back to Kentucky to get his counteroffer and pay raise, not me....Last edited by J.Jennings; 08-28-2019, 11:33 AM.Comment
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Going to throw Nick Richards back in the mix, back in the 80's 90's and early 2oth century Kentucky fans would have been pumped and exciting about a 3 year guy ready to take over and make a name for himself but now 99% of us are pissed off and calling him a bum because he's not in the NBA already, there is a reason why Kenny Skywalker, Chuck Hayes and many other UK legends stayed in school and got better as time went on, expecting every 7 footer to be Cousins, Davis, Towns is foolish and not fair....Comment
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You do realize that outside of the Kentucky fan base we are the laughing stock of college basketball right, nobody fears Kentucky anymore. We are known as the team with good players with a Coach who can't coach, whether that's true or not is debatable but that's how other teams and fans look at us.Cal has had all these NBA players in his 10 years who now play in the NBA and what has it brought to Kentucky in regards to NCAA Championships, 1???That is the same amount of titles for other teams who's players are now working in the real world life after basketball...
Furthermore, don't be mad at me for calling it out, Cal was the guy talking about UCLA championships and all that, not me. He's the guy bragging out his millionaires in the NBA, not me. He's the guy that meets with teams in the offseason then comes back to Kentucky to get his counteroffer and pay raise, not me....
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And yes expectations have changed. If we do not get the very best players in the class we are all in panic mode and done before we even get started hoping Cal gets the top players next year. WHY IS THIS? Want to know why, because WE ALL KNOW THAT CAL CAN'T WIN without the VERY BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD. If we have to expect him to actually coach and adapt, we all know we are screwed from the get go, it aint going to happen, dude don't know how to take a mediocre team and get it to work to 100% efficiency, and yes that is the difference between him and the coach in the 90's.....Comment
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And Coach K has won 2 titles, Villanova 2, and everyone else has won 1 during Cal's tenure at UK. If you'd been back in 2009 after the Billy Gillispie debacle that we'd go to 4 Final Fours and play in 2 title games while winning 1 of them, we'd have been thrilled and if you were being honest here you'd agree I think.
That's fine, but find me a guy with a better record than Cal at UK.Comment
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And Coach K has won 2 titles, Villanova 2, and everyone else has won 1 during Cal's tenure at UK. If you'd been back in 2009 after the Billy Gillispie debacle that we'd go to 4 Final Fours and play in 2 title games while winning 1 of them, we'd have been thrilled and if you were being honest here you'd agree I think.
That's fine, but find me a guy with a better record than Cal at UK.Comment
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Kentucky's record in the NCAA Tournament under Cal is pretty impressive. At one point we had like the highest winning percentage for higher seeds of anybody in the country, and that was just a couple years ago.
I don't think the Wall/Cousins team choked. That was a flawed team. The 2015 team definitely did. Other than that I think Kentucky has pretty much maxed out. Could have three or four more titles, but probably should have only one more.
Give the 2015 team theirs and that's 2 titles in 9 years. That's a historic run.
As it is, if he finishes with just 1 title then it'll be a disappointment but I don't think it can be broken down into this either/or that goes either Cal sucks or he's great. There's a vast middle ground.Comment
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And yes expectations have changed. If we do not get the very best players in the class we are all in panic mode and done before we even get started hoping Cal gets the top players next year. WHY IS THIS? Want to know why, because WE ALL KNOW THAT CAL CAN'T WIN without the VERY BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD. If we have to expect him to actually coach and adapt, we all know we are screwed from the get go, it aint going to happen, dude don't know how to take a mediocre team and get it to work to 100% efficiency, and yes that is the difference between him and the coach in the 90's.....Comment
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Only once in 9 seasons have we failed to make it out of the first weekend of the tournament. K won two titles, but he lost to a 15 seed a few years back. He's lost in the Elite 8 with arguably the best team in the country twice in a row. Jay Wright won two titles but he's missed the tournament a bunch.
So, again, find me a coach who's won more in the tournament than Cal.Comment
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Knight, Lamb, Liggins, Jones, Jorts, and Miller.
Not an NBA stud in there but a really good team. IMO the Ohio State team that they beat was one of those squads like our 2015 team: the fact that they lost in the tournament was a total shocker.
Cal gets deserved ripping for some of the games UK has lost in March but you never hear anybody talk about some of the great wins. That UK team should not have been able to knock off Ohio State. That was a seriously good basketball team.Comment
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