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  • JFCats22
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 4221

    #91
    [QUOTE=40bill;n206731]
    Originally posted by JFCats22

    Is this so laughable it doesn't even warrant a response. [/QUOTE
    Lol, the response is to the level of your premise.

    once again, oh ye of answers.......what are you going to get drunk on?
    Who said anything about getting drunk? I want to go to a UK event and decide for myself if I want to have a couple of beers. I never said the goal is to throw up on myself.

    You are smart enough (I hope) to realize that you can drink alcohol without getting drunk, correct?

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    • justford
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 4669

      #92
      I think the only solution is to agree to disagree. Our opinions will not change anything or anyone's position on this matter. Just glad I am not the one having to make the decision.

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      • 40bill
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 8506

        #93
        I'm not concerned about you. ...if you aren't a sloppy obnoxious jerk.
        every stadium has rules, training and safeguards. And liability insurance.
        more alcohol sales gives more opportunity for those that I suppose aren't you.

        it's ironic that so many post about the heavy drinking, flasks and byob already existing at the events....what would lead you to believe that the teams would benefit from people buying 12 dollar beers when they've already proven the ability to get it in themselves?
        Is everyone that goes in going to be subject to stop and frisk or is security going to go to every tailgate to confiscate?

        Just seems like a bunch of problems for little profitability.
        sorry, didn't quote. This is in response to JFcats.

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        • Dwight Schrute
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 18716

          #94
          Originally posted by 40bill
          I'm not concerned about you. ...if you aren't a sloppy obnoxious jerk.
          every stadium has rules, training and safeguards. And liability insurance.
          more alcohol sales gives more opportunity for those that I suppose aren't you.

          it's ironic that so many post about the heavy drinking, flasks and byob already existing at the events....what would lead you to believe that the teams would benefit from people buying 12 dollar beers when they've already proven the ability to get it in themselves?
          Is everyone that goes in going to be subject to stop and frisk or is security going to go to every tailgate to confiscate?

          Just seems like a bunch of problems for little profitability.
          well, I like beer, I like to enjoy a beer and a hotdog while I watch my sporting events, and I can't sneak in a beer very easily. At the least, it isn't worth the hassle.

          But I would pay $12 to enjoy a large beer with my $8 hotdog while I watch my sports. I know this because I already do it at Reds games, and I suspect the vast majority of people agree with me on this.

          I have snuck in a flask when I was a student.

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          • 40bill
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 8506

            #95
            All things said and done, I imagine it will be approved on some type of trial basis to see what happens.

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            • Lighthouse
              Gone But Never Forgotten
              • Oct 2014
              • 35962

              #96
              Originally posted by JFCats22

              https://www.christianity.com/christi...k-alcohol.html

              So Scripture nowhere gives just a flat-out denunciation of alcohol. In fact, on the contrary, there are positive things that are said about wine.

              https://www.biblestudytools.com/topi...nking-alcohol/

              but the Bible never says that alcohol is wrong.


              The Bible’s answer It is not a sin to drink alcohol in moderation.
              You obviously didn't read many of the Scripture you found in the article.
              John 3:3

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              • Lighthouse
                Gone But Never Forgotten
                • Oct 2014
                • 35962

                #97
                Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                Well, first off, the Bible is extremely contradictory in many instances - it's impossible to follow the letter of God's law. Best to stick to the spirit of it and try our hardest.

                I'm not demeaning you, I'm pointing out why I and a lot of other Theologians disagree with your assessment. Jesus absolutely never forbade drinking. He forbade drunkenness and mandated that man follow the laws (meaning underaged drinking and public drunkenness laws should always be followed). He also forbade it if it hinders the Gospel or offends others (should we ever find ourselves in each other's intimate company, I will not drink).

                But Jesus absolutely never forbade us from enjoying a beer or glass of wine or a spirit in moderation.
                Dwight, I appreciate your above post, and I really didn't feel demeaned. From what I read in your posts, you are a lot more Spiritual than you sometimes want to admit.

                I don't agree that the Bible is contradictory. I find it full of Prophesy fulfilled, but it can be confusing. For instance, I read a lot of Scripture and nearly every time I read a Chapter, I see something totally different than before. Now, it can be considered contradictory if we don't look at the Bible as the Inspired Word of God, and pay no attention to all of it. Hebrews 13:8 says, "Jesus is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow." He still calls sin, sin.
                John 3:3

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                • 40bill
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 8506

                  #98
                  I would add the argument that the Bible is hard to read in the 21st century is a statement that gets made every century. A lot of issues are caused by picking verses to exclusion of all other....and that's a pretty ordinary thing that happens. The two 'greatest commandments' are often kicked to the side.


                  in a related to the OP topic, Alabama and Auburn have announced that they will not change current policies.

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                  • JFCats22
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 4221

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Lighthouse

                    You obviously didn't read many of the Scripture you found in the article.
                    I love that you never answer any question asked of you and ignore the articles or proof points provided.

                    Exactly what people who have been proven wrong do. Ignore the question, deflect, change the subject.

                    Hilarious, totally hilarious.

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                    • 40bill
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 8506

                      #100
                      The decision on sales notwithstanding, are you sure you read that whole article or did you stop early?
                      if our opinions are irrelevant, that's fine. You may want to read Calipari's opinion as well.

                      I would bet that Barnhart will wait and see the decisions of more schools besides what the two Alabama teams came out with. I admire his work as AD, but I'm not sure he has the personality to be a conference leader on this.

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                      • Lighthouse
                        Gone But Never Forgotten
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 35962

                        #101
                        Originally posted by JFCats22

                        I love that you never answer any question asked of you and ignore the articles or proof points provided.

                        Exactly what people who have been proven wrong do. Ignore the question, deflect, change the subject.

                        Hilarious, totally hilarious.
                        You are describing yourself. IF you read all the Scripture YOU posted, Study, Think about what you read and then Pray for discernment, you just might answer you own question.
                        John 3:3

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                        • Dwight Schrute
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 18716

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Lighthouse

                          Dwight, I appreciate your above post, and I really didn't feel demeaned. From what I read in your posts, you are a lot more Spiritual than you sometimes want to admit.

                          I don't agree that the Bible is contradictory. I find it full of Prophesy fulfilled, but it can be confusing. For instance, I read a lot of Scripture and nearly every time I read a Chapter, I see something totally different than before. Now, it can be considered contradictory if we don't look at the Bible as the Inspired Word of God, and pay no attention to all of it. Hebrews 13:8 says, "Jesus is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow." He still calls sin, sin.
                          But He doesn't call alcohol sin - He calls drunkenness a sin. That's the whole point here.

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                          • 40bill
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 8506

                            #103
                            Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                            But He doesn't call alcohol sin - He calls drunkenness a sin. That's the whole point here.
                            But isn't it tied together Dwight? I've met very few people that have problems with alcohol that admit it. I'm not suggesting that's you or anyone for the sale that posts on here.

                            Seems at this time the best temporary solution may be sections of sales allowed and sections not.

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                            • Dwight Schrute
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 18716

                              #104
                              Originally posted by 40bill

                              But isn't it tied together Dwight? I've met very few people that have problems with alcohol that admit it. I'm not suggesting that's you or anyone for the sale that posts on here.

                              Seems at this time the best temporary solution may be sections of sales allowed and sections not.
                              No! My God Bill, you know people drink beer or wine or spirits for reasons other than getting drunk, right? You can't acknowledge that these two are not one in the same.

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                              • Dwight Schrute
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 18716

                                #105
                                We bought our house as part of an estate sale. One of the members of that estate is a nun. Sometimes, she stops by our house and brings us beer that they brew at their Parrish.

                                If you're gonna tell me they have a problem with alcohol, I'm going to laugh in your face.

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