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  • Lighthouse
    Gone But Never Forgotten
    • Oct 2014
    • 35962

    #31
    Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

    I respect your right to an opinion on the matter, but I'd suggest if you don't like alcohol, don't drink it.
    Respectfully, I don't.
    John 3:3

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    • Joneslab
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 39604

      #32
      I'm adamantly for alcohol being served at the events.

      I do think football, because of tailgating, has created a weird thing where you get these night games where many in the stadium are drunk by kickoff. We haven't had anything awful happen (my friends did go to a game a few years ago and a person vomited over their entire row), but it's not uncommon to go to Commonwealth and see people roaring drunk by gametime. There was a young man--maybe 18 but probably younger--around us at a game last year who could hardly stand.

      To me that's a separate issue than selling beer at the stadium. And I'm not even sure it's an issue to be honest, or at least it's one that's probably unenforceable without punishing a lot of folks unintentionally. But I do think football has become a little like European soccer in that it caters more to aggressive, semi-/fully drunken louts than it does the family. I went to a Bengals game a few years ago and holy crap the level of intoxication and outright hostility was wild.

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      • Dwight Schrute
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 18716

        #33
        Originally posted by Will Lavender
        I'm adamantly for alcohol being served at the events.

        I do think football, because of tailgating, has created a weird thing where you get these night games where many in the stadium are drunk by kickoff. We haven't had anything awful happen (my friends did go to a game a few years ago and a person vomited over their entire row), but it's not uncommon to go to Commonwealth and see people roaring drunk by gametime. There was a young man--maybe 18 but probably younger--around us at a game last year who could hardly stand.

        To me that's a separate issue than selling beer at the stadium. And I'm not even sure it's an issue to be honest, or at least it's one that's probably unenforceable without punishing a lot of folks unintentionally. But I do think football has become a little like European soccer in that it caters more to aggressive, semi-/fully drunken louts than it does the family. I went to a Bengals game a few years ago and holy crap the level of intoxication and outright hostility was wild.
        Yeah, if we're concerned about fan behavior, enact policies to curb behavior BEFORE the game. Concession stand prices are too expensive to get drunk during the game. The Reds in particular sell beer for as much as $13 - I don't care who you are, that's too expensive.

        Your point about football in general becoming more prone to allowing combative and hostile behavior is a good one.

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        • Dwight Schrute
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 18716

          #34
          Originally posted by Lighthouse

          Respectfully, I don't.
          See? We can each make our own choices.

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          • 40bill
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 8506

            #35
            Originally posted by JFCats22

            Yes, you have it correct. I hate children (even my 3 kids) and especially the elderly (my grandparents, aunts/uncles, etc... included).

            I didn't realize this was 1950

            This weird, "we can't sell beer or the stadium will turn into a drug fueled orgy" mentality is baffling to me.

            How do people go anywhere or do anything with this type of fear?

            Go to a restaurant? Nope, can't do that, those dang alcohol drinkers may murder us. Go to a movie? Nope, unless it's PG I may hear a bad word. Go to a concert? Whoa, are you crazy? Do you know what happens there? Surely can't go to a MLB, NFL, NHL, NBA, or MLS event either.

            I have been to probably 1,000+ sporting/concert, etc...type events in my life (some I had a few beers others I did not) and I can probably count on one hand the number of times I ran into any issues, saw outrageous behavior or had any drunk/cursing/fighting issues. This fear is so overblown it's beyond silly.


            people that want it are gonna drink it. It's great as long as it doesn't intrude on others around them.
            Selling it at the event will likely cause a bit more control of the age groups,
            and some venues cut off alcohol after a certain time ( been to some ball games years before where the Seventh inning was cut off)

            we were just giving slants on it. Folks that don't care for the atmosphere will likely leave kids at home, and I'm pretty sure there will be some kind of addendum for security.

            I imagine Mitch gets the first call, but the school president and bod will have final say. However, as has been already pointed out, Rupp already has that capability and being off campus will likely factor in favor as well.

            It is what it is, good or bad.

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            • 40bill
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 8506

              #36
              Will had a good point. I've been at baseball stadiums hand never had problems, and there's plenty of high priced beer.
              I've never had a good time at football with a load.of drunks....even if I was partaking.

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              • Dwight Schrute
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 18716

                #37
                Mitch isn't gonna leave Dr. Capilouto hanging out on a limb - he wouldn't take a stance that was counter to his boss' wishes. I don't know whether it's a UK Athletics Board or a UK BOT call or Mitch's alone, but the administration will be in a unified voice here.

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                • Catatonic
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 2913

                  #38
                  I can see both sides. I like to have a drink during a game, but some people take it way too far. It's a variable you have to consider especially if you're taking kids or grandparents, etc.

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                  • Spiritof96
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 13503

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Catatonic
                    I can see both sides. I like to have a drink during a game, but some people take it way too far. It's a variable you have to consider especially if you're taking kids or grandparents, etc.
                    UK is really good about removing problem people if reported to an usher. I almost NEVER encounter a disruptive drunk person inside the stadium. Either way, I will still have to sneak my scotch in...
                    Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                    ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                    Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                    No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                    RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                    • Dwight Schrute
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 18716

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Spiritof96

                      UK is really good about removing problem people if reported to an usher. I almost NEVER encounter a disruptive drunk person inside the stadium. Either way, I will still have to sneak my scotch in...
                      Well yeah, we're a bourbon state.

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                      • JFCats22
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 4221

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Lighthouse
                        If you or anybody wants to attend events where alcohol is served, then have at it, but I'm against it!
                        So, you don't attend any concerts, professional sporting events, Bingo nights, church picnics, restaurants, movie theaters, etc...???

                        What do you do then, stay at home all the time?

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                        • Spiritof96
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 13503

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                          Well yeah, we're a bourbon state.
                          Distilled spirits not allowed per this iteration of SEC alcohol sales. Sorry if you were joking...
                          Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                          ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                          Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                          No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                          RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                          • Dwight Schrute
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 18716

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Spiritof96

                            Distilled spirits not allowed per this iteration of SEC alcohol sales. Sorry if you were joking...
                            I was indeed making a joke.

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                            • 40bill
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 8506

                              #44
                              Originally posted by JFCats22

                              So, you don't attend any concerts, professional sporting events, Bingo nights, church picnics, restaurants, movie theaters, etc...???

                              What do you do then, stay at home all the time?
                              Hmmmmm....never been to a movie where they sold beer. Not a church picnic either.
                              not every obnoxious jerk drinks.
                              Every drunk one does though.

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                              • Dwight Schrute
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 18716

                                #45
                                Originally posted by 40bill

                                Hmmmmm....never been to a movie where they sold beer. Not a church picnic either.
                                not every obnoxious jerk drinks.
                                Every drunk one does though.
                                The church we attend up here serves beer sometimes (mostly for special events and on Super Bowl Sunday). Never been to a Catholic picnic? Oktoberfest? Fish Fry?

                                Modern movie theaters all serve beer.

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