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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #16
    I sort of think Mashburn spent most of his career at the 4 as well. On that great '93 team I think Rhodes would've been the starting SF and Mashburn was the PF. Mashburn would have likely played on the wing when Gimel Martinez was in the game.

    Pitino was ahead of his time in so many ways. One thing he was doing way before anybody else was stretching out the 4. His better teams had so many bigger players--Mashburn, McCarthy, Walker, etc.--who could play inside and out. "Positionless" well before everybody started doing it.

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    • Spiritof96
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 13503

      #17
      Originally posted by Will Lavender
      I sort of think Mashburn spent most of his career at the 4 as well. On that great '93 team I think Rhodes would've been the starting SF and Mashburn was the PF. Mashburn would have likely played on the wing when Gimel Martinez was in the game.

      Pitino was ahead of his time in so many ways. One thing he was doing way before anybody else was stretching out the 4. His better teams had so many bigger players--Mashburn, McCarthy, Walker, etc.--who could play inside and out. "Positionless" well before everybody started doing it.
      I went back and checked. When he was here Mash played mostly the 4. He was a 3 in the NBA.

      I love Mashburn... LOVE THAT GUY.
      Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
      ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
      Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
      No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
      RIP: Charlie Munger​

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      • Dwight Schrute
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 18716

        #18
        Originally posted by Spiritof96
        I thought Mash was a PF???

        With that said:

        1. Mercer
        2. MKG
        3. Prince


        ​​I already had Anderson at SG... I never really cared for Prince as a player but he was good. Do we count Hishimu Evans or Scott Padgett as a 3?
        How in the world did I forget Tayshaun?

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        • catfaninin
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 2016

          #19
          Something interesting I saw this weekend. Hanging in my garage I have a poster that was passed out during a game in 2003. UK Fantasy Five it's called. No idea what determined who made the list. But the 5 on it are Issell, Mashburn, Givens, Delk and Macy.

          That might make for an interesting thread once the position threads finish.

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          • Spiritof96
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 13503

            #20
            I am sure Givens was awesome, but I never saw him play. (more like don't remember seeing)
            Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
            ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
            Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
            No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
            RIP: Charlie Munger​

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            • Spiritof96
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 13503

              #21
              Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

              How in the world did I forget Tayshaun?
              Despite how good he was, I think he had a very forgettable career here. When I think of him, I think of 5 threes in a row vs UNC, Game winning hook against FL, and team turmoil. Similar to Jamal Murray, he frustrated me.
              Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
              ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
              Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
              No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
              RIP: Charlie Munger​

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #22
                Why would Jamal Murray have frustrated you? The guy hit 113 threes (!) here on the season while shooting 41% from outside (!!). Those are historic numbers and not just at UK.

                He and Ulis were really bright spots on an uneven team. I get being frustrated by somebody like...Marcus Lee, say. But Jamal Murray? Can't really figure out why anyone would be frustrated with him.

                An argument could be made, a good one, that he's the best shooter to ever play at Kentucky.

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                • Dwight Schrute
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 18716

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Spiritof96

                  Despite how good he was, I think he had a very forgettable career here. When I think of him, I think of 5 threes in a row vs UNC, Game winning hook against FL, and team turmoil. Similar to Jamal Murray, he frustrated me.
                  You wouldn't realize he was in the top 10 in scoring in our history (I think he still might be but I'm not sure). I also don't understand the frustration with Jamal Murray.

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                  • catfaninin
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 2016

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Spiritof96
                    I am sure Givens was awesome, but I never saw him play. (more like don't remember seeing)
                    That's what makes this so interesting. I consider guys like Walker and Givens as all time greats in the program. I see names mentioned here like Mercer, Anderson or MKG who would never even cross my mind in that discussion.

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                    • Lighthouse
                      Gone But Never Forgotten
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 35962

                      #25
                      Not having seen him play is the reason not many consider Riley as one of the best SF's. He could shoot and play with the best. Another real good one was Johnny Cox.
                      John 3:3

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                      • Spiritof96
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 13503

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                        You wouldn't realize he was in the top 10 in scoring in our history (I think he still might be but I'm not sure). I also don't understand the frustration with Jamal Murray.
                        The frustration with Murray is likely irrational / unfair. His numbers are great, is highlight reel is great, but I felt like he disappeared too often when we needed him. My impression of him is as a talented, "good stat's bad team guy".
                        Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                        ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                        Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                        No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                        RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                        • Dwight Schrute
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 18716

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Spiritof96

                          The frustration with Murray is likely irrational / unfair. His numbers are great, is highlight reel is great, but I felt like he disappeared too often when we needed him. My impression of him is as a talented, "good stat's bad team guy".
                          I thought he was fine, he just didn't play on a great team and tried to do too much. Any time you have an average team with an above average guy like him, all it takes is relegating him to average status and you're in a good position.

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                          • Joneslab
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 39604

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Spiritof96

                            The frustration with Murray is likely irrational / unfair. His numbers are great, is highlight reel is great, but I felt like he disappeared too often when we needed him. My impression of him is as a talented, "good stat's bad team guy".
                            He actually didn't disappear at all that entire season. He was crazy consistent. Scored in single-digits only once: the second game of his career.

                            The problem with Murray is sort of the problem with Shai and Kevin Knox: they played on teams that weren't the best. If they didn't absolutely dominate games, those teams were going to have a hard time winning.

                            Tayshaun falls into this camp a little. Tayshaun had the bad luck of playing on teams that were a mess in the locker room. He really had only one brilliant season, the 2001 SEC POY season. Every other season he was playing with guys who wanted to fight on the team plane and stage shooting strikes to try and show up the coach.

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                            • Dwight Schrute
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 18716

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Will Lavender

                              He actually didn't disappear at all that entire season. He was crazy consistent. Scored in single-digits only once: the second game of his career.

                              The problem with Murray is sort of the problem with Shai and Kevin Knox: they played on teams that weren't the best. If they didn't absolutely dominate games, those teams were going to have a hard time winning.

                              Tayshaun falls into this camp a little. Tayshaun had the bad luck of playing on teams that were a mess in the locker room. He really had only one brilliant season, the 2001 SEC POY season. Every other season he was playing with guys who wanted to fight on the team plane and stage shooting strikes to try and show up the coach.
                              RASHAAD CARRUTH!

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                              • TrueblueCATfan
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 16268

                                #30
                                Mashburn
                                Anderson
                                Prince

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