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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #1

    From Atop the College Basketball World to the Middle of Nowhere

    Highly interesting article about former UK players who didn't make it. Reminds me of the pieces you read from time to time about minor league baseball players.

    Not every former Kentucky player skyrockets to NBA superstardom. While their former teammates start All-Star Games and take over playoff matchups, some former John Calipari products are clawing out careers in the G League and overseas.
  • 40bill
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 8451

    #2
    Another good write up. Orton, Teague, even the twins....
    one more year.....maybe.
    Willis is a different deal....not a five star one and done that has likely worked up far as he can.

    You roll the dice though. First round picks with chances at gooooooooood money. And now and then maybe one or two too many folks telling you just how good you are.


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    • Lighthouse
      Gone But Never Forgotten
      • Oct 2014
      • 35962

      #3
      Good read. I'm sure they all feel kinda like Goodwin.
      John 3:3

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      • KCKUKFan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 14228

        #4
        Good read.

        Most fascinating is how fondly Daniel Orton looks back at his (tumultuous, fractured) time at Kentucky. Probably got out in the real world and realized how cake he had it here.

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        • Blue Heaven
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 6283

          #5
          FWIW, Andrew Harrison has had a really solid year so I wouldn't say he's in the middle of nowhere.
          Isaiah 5:20

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          • Blue Heaven
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 6283

            #6
            Originally posted by Blue Heaven
            FWIW, Andrew Harrison has had a really solid year so I wouldn't say he's in the middle of nowhere.
            My bad. A previous post had me thinking he was on that list.
            Isaiah 5:20

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            • BobS
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 1291

              #7
              Good to see Archie is still all about Archie.

              Orton left without fulfilling his academic obligations. But got a couple of million for his troubles.

              Happy for Wiltjer. Glad he's happy. Guys like Teague just got real bad advice. Hope that article is posted in UK locker room.

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              • KevinHall
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 6857

                #8
                Very good article. Like Bob said it should be required reading for every UK player under Cal. Lots of pitfalls in playing overseas. Not all situations are like Wiltjer's. He got lucky it seems with a very good Greece team and league. But usually Americans are singled out overseas and don't get a break. Most overseas leagues seem to run on a shoestring too. You may or may not get paid. And don't expect to stay in a 5 star hotel either.
                Most of these guys miss their days at UK. Compared to the real world it was a piece of cake. More of these guys need to realize it's not all sunshine and roses when they go pro. It's tough world out there and when you are in a highly competitive environment like this its even tougher.
                Kentucky fan since 1971.

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                • bigbluebob
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 125

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BobS
                  Good to see Archie is still all about Archie.

                  Orton left without fulfilling his academic obligations. But got a couple of million for his troubles.

                  Happy for Wiltjer. Glad he's happy. Guys like Teague just got real bad advice. Hope that article is posted in UK locker room.
                  I hope so too Bob!
                  God, Family, Kentucky Basketball

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                  • 85 Fly
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 1297

                    #10
                    Anybody know the latest on how Briscoe is doing?

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                    • Spiritof96
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 13503

                      #11
                      I really enjoyed the article.
                      Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                      ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                      Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                      No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                      RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                      • Dwight Schrute
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 18716

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KevinHall
                        Very good article. Like Bob said it should be required reading for every UK player under Cal. Lots of pitfalls in playing overseas. Not all situations are like Wiltjer's. He got lucky it seems with a very good Greece team and league. But usually Americans are singled out overseas and don't get a break. Most overseas leagues seem to run on a shoestring too. You may or may not get paid. And don't expect to stay in a 5 star hotel either.
                        Most of these guys miss their days at UK. Compared to the real world it was a piece of cake. More of these guys need to realize it's not all sunshine and roses when they go pro. It's tough world out there and when you are in a highly competitive environment like this its even tougher.
                        Counterpoint: Briscoe reportedly hated college and had no desire to stay another year anyway. I imagine a lot of guys are in this boat. So in that regard, even making a hundred grand a year overseas is more enticing than another year of school.

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                        • KevinHall
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 6857

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                          Counterpoint: Briscoe reportedly hated college and had no desire to stay another year anyway. I imagine a lot of guys are in this boat. So in that regard, even making a hundred grand a year overseas is more enticing than another year of school.
                          Sure, if they want to go that bad then go. At least they would be warned and have examples of what it could be like. I wonder what his thoughts are now? He wasn't in this article.
                          Kentucky fan since 1971.

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                          • J.Jennings
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 7005

                            #14
                            J. Vanderbilt, are you reading this???

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                            • ralph helm
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 565

                              #15
                              If a marginal player makes 100k a few years overseas ---then what does he do the rest of his life after he is 25or26& does not have enough education to land a decent or better job?

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