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Who's Your One "What Could Have Been" UK Player?

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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #46
    Kawhi Leonard is probably the best basketball player in the world behind LeBron and Westbrook.

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    • George
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 10355

      #47
      Originally posted by Will Lavender
      Kawhi Leonard is probably the best basketball player in the world behind LeBron and Westbrook.
      That's exactly what I'm saying.

      In fact, if I were to make any changes to those three, I'd bump Westbrook before I would Leonard.
      Last edited by George; 05-05-2017, 08:56 AM.

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      • Spiritof96
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 13503

        #48
        Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

        In an NBA fantasy draft, how high would you take Kawhi Leonard?

        All things considered, I might be willing to go top three.
        I have been hearing about how great Kawhi is without actually seeing it. Every Spurs game I would watch was... meh.

        BUT!

        Based on their last playoff game, it's Lebron, healthy KD, and him . I wouldn't have Westbrook or Hardin on my team. (well maybe Hardin)
        Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
        ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
        Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
        No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
        RIP: Charlie Munger​

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        • largebluej
          Senior Member
          • May 2016
          • 420

          #49
          Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

          Early departure. I'm looking at other things.
          Sam Bowie didn't leave early. He was actually here five years. Missed two in the middle due to the leg injury.

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          • George
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 10355

            #50
            Originally posted by largebluej

            Sam Bowie didn't leave early. He was actually here five years. Missed two in the middle due to the leg injury.
            I was pretty certain I was wrong about that but I didn't bother to look it up. Thanks for clarifying.

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            • George
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 10355

              #51
              Originally posted by Spiritof96

              I have been hearing about how great Kawhi is without actually seeing it. Every Spurs game I would watch was... meh.

              BUT!

              Based on their last playoff game, it's Lebron, healthy KD, and him . I wouldn't have Westbrook or Hardin on my team. (well maybe Hardin)
              Leonard's game is subtle in a lot of ways, but he's about as good an all-around player as you're going to find.

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              • Spiritof96
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 13503

                #52
                Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                Leonard's game is subtle in a lot of ways, but he's about as good an all-around player as you're going to find.
                I'm convinced now. His defense, efficiency, and athleticism are simply amazing. I think he may become my favorite player.

                If Westbrook wasn't such a sore head ball hog, I would love him.
                Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                • TrueblueCATfan
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 16268

                  #53
                  I know it has already been said but I would go with Enes Kanter

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                  • teamchemistry15
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 7022

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                    Are you trolling?
                    Nope. He was supposed to be a good player. Many of us were thrilled to get him. I still remember that picture of him trying to dunk from near the free throw line but the ball was coming out of his hands....

                    I just hope ten years from now we aren't talking about what Wilgus could've been.

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                    • DA#23
                      Administrator
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 7342

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                      Are you trolling?
                      I also think Harrow coulda/shoulda been an awesome college point guard. Just had less mental toughness than even Antwain Barbour.

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                      • Lighthouse
                        Gone But Never Forgotten
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 35962

                        #56
                        Originally posted by TrueblueCATfan
                        I know it has already been said but I would go with Enes Kanter
                        He was in the Cal era. The OP asked abbot players before Cal.
                        John 3:3

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Spiritof96
                          If Westbrook wasn't such a sore head ball hog, I would love him.
                          He was second in the NBA in assists behind Wall.

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                          • Spiritof96
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 13503

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Will Lavender

                            He was second in the NBA in assists behind Wall.
                            So? Watch their offense.

                            Now here’s where you say, “Wait, Westbrook is averaging 10 assists a game! How can Russ be a ball hog?” Assists tend to mean someone is unselfish, right? My counter: Hogging the ball only means you always have the ball … right? In only 35 minutes per game, Westbrook doesn’t just dominate the basketball; it’s more like 50 Shades of Westbrook.

                            Take Tuesday night, for example. Portland 126, Oklahoma City 121. Westbrook played 36 of 48 minutes, jacked 39 shots, took 16 free throws, scored 58 points and assisted on another 24. This ESPN piece mentions that “the Thunder were outscored by 12 points with Westbrook off the court,” and that, “it’s clear he had little help from teammates, who struggled to make shots when Westbrook was not involved.” Along with his impossible triple-double quest, that’s been the MVP narrative for Westbrook: He does everything! He’s carrying a subpar team every night! It’s a chicken vs. egg thing. Maybe Westbrook’s teammates struggle because he insists on doing everything.

                            I watched Tuesday night’s game and charted the second half. Westbrook played 18 of 24 minutes, took 24 shots and 13 free throws, committed two turnovers, assisted on four baskets (all open looks) and made three more passes that directly led to misses. Twice, the Thunder veered away from him and ran I-feel-bad-you-take-it plays for Oladipo, who shot the ball within three seconds, like always, because he never knew if he’d see it again. Once, Semaj Christon got blocked on a non-Westbrook fast-break layup. Once, Enes Kanter turned it over on a post-up. And once, Adams rebounded a missed Westbrook free throw and drew a foul. (Does that even count as a possession?) That’s it for the non-Russ plays. When Westbrook was in the game, he single-handedly decided 39 of OKC’s 44 second-half possessions.

                            Oh … and they lost.
                            Last edited by Spiritof96; 05-05-2017, 11:24 AM.
                            Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                            ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                            Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                            No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                            RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                            • Blue Heaven
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 6283

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Will Lavender

                              He was second in the NBA in assists behind Wall.
                              The Thunder is Westbrook and a bunch of JAGs. He HAS to do it all. Take Westbrook away and that team is a cellar dweller. Just think. The Thunder had Westbrook, Durant, and Hardin at one time. Billy D won't last long in OKC unless he gets Westbrook some help.
                              Isaiah 5:20

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                              • Blue Heaven
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 6283

                                #60
                                Since we are talking NBA now, Giannis Antetemkumpo is the next big thing, along with our own KAT.
                                Isaiah 5:20

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