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  • Blue Heaven
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 6283

    #16
    I personally see nothing wrong with the play calling. Maybe involve the TE more, but other than that I've been fine with it. The problem is we have WRs who can't catch a cold, an O Line who can't block, and a Defensive Coordinator who is not putting the guys in position to make plays. We need more help on the D line. Three bodies is not going to do it. Couple that with just absolutely horrible tackling and you have a defense who gets worn out because our offense can't make first downs. We also need a qb change. Towles,even when he has the time, is lost past his first read. He stares down WRs too much and holds the ball for far too long.
    Isaiah 5:20

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    • Los Gatos
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 1690

      #17
      Towles's QB rating for the GA was a four. His average for the last three games is somewhere in the 20ies. If Barker can't do significantly better, we are in real trouble not only for the rest of this season but also next year.

      It will be tough to find a better experienced QB at this stage. Maybe a Juco or a player who has graduated with a year of eligibility remaining.

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      • UK39
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 246

        #18
        I would start Towles for this game and once Charlotte comes around start Barker. Whether its Stoops or Dawson, Towles hasn't grasped the system,my greatest regret is they have taken away his mobility which was a big weapon last year. There is nothing creative and there has been no adjustments after halftime. I agree that Stoops is likely a micromanager, he doesn't has the coordinators willing to step up, neither Dawson or Eliot seem likely to do so. Unfort that will make it more difficult to recruit better coordinators if the HC's hands are always in the cookie jar.

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        • Matt Dillon
          Administrator
          • Oct 2014
          • 49617

          #19
          If we don't beat Vandy, it probably won't matter who starts against Charlotte as far as obtaining bowl eligibility is conerned.
          Philippians 4:11-4:13

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          • UK39
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 246

            #20
            Agreed, but they feel Towles gives them the best chance to win until proven otherwise.

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            • Matt Dillon
              Administrator
              • Oct 2014
              • 49617

              #21
              Originally posted by UK39
              Agreed, but they feel Towles gives them the best chance to win until proven otherwise.

              Unless Barker gets a start, it'll never be proven one way or the other.
              Philippians 4:11-4:13

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #22
                I don't think it will matter who starts. The issues on this team go so far beyond the quarterback it isn't funny.

                Everybody has his head down. When things start going bad they immediately begin to snowball.

                This starts to infect the entire team, from the QB to the punter to apparently the gunners on the kickoffs.

                My hs coach used to say of guys that they "had their dander down." This team has a big-time case of a downed dander, and I'm not even sure what that means.

                You can make the change to Barker and you'll get the exact same results because the infection seems to have spread all around the team. Stoops in the postgame the other day sounded like a broken man. You have to wonder if the team is just not being motivated correctly. X's and O's are important but we seem to have a coach--a staff of them--who for some reason just can't motivate the team when things start going south...and those are the times when motivation is the most essential.

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                • VirginiaBlue
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 211

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Will Lavender
                  You can make the change to Barker and you'll get the exact same results because the infection seems to have spread all around the team.
                  Not sure about that. After Barker helped bring in that nice 2014 class of recruits, who got us all hyped up by saying they were going to turn the program around, IIRC they were, shall we say, disappointed that he was not chosen to be the guy at the helm. Look down that list at the link below. They may rally around him.

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                  • Joneslab
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 39604

                    #24
                    Originally posted by VirginiaBlue

                    Not sure about that. After Barker helped bring in that nice 2014 class of recruits, who got us all hyped up by saying they were going to turn the program around, IIRC they were, shall we say, disappointed that he was not chosen to be the guy at the helm. Look down that list at the link below. They may rally around him.
                    They didn't do a great job of rallying around him when he was getting knocked out in that dorm.

                    These issues are deep at this point. This is a team in freefall. A quarterback change would be temporary Band-Aid. Looks to me like a lot of guys have just quit.

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                    • johnkyblue
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 4418

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Blue Heaven
                      I personally see nothing wrong with the play calling. Maybe involve the TE more, but other than that I've been fine with it. The problem is we have WRs who can't catch a cold, an O Line who can't block, and a Defensive Coordinator who is not putting the guys in position to make plays. We need more help on the D line. Three bodies is not going to do it. Couple that with just absolutely horrible tackling and you have a defense who gets worn out because our offense can't make first downs. We also need a qb change. Towles,even when he has the time, is lost past his first read. He stares down WRs too much and holds the ball for far too long.
                      Marvin Lewis was going to be the team's MVP. The team is much different without him. Need two or three of him in the future.

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                      • johnkyblue
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 4418

                        #26
                        It's Patrick's fault that the defense allows LONG drives. It's Patrick's fault that the kicker kicked the wrong way. It's Patrick's fault that the OL hasn't blocked well and we have no running game. That torn groin of the kicker? Patrick tore it! Lewis is out because of Patrick. It's Patrick's fault the schedule put our best opponents all together over the last four weeks. UK football fan is D U M B. That's why you all miss big wins, you gave up on them before you should have, because you don't know what you are watching - the EKU game this year, even.

                        If you were there, you doesn't include you.

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                        • boomdaddy
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 675

                          #27
                          It's not the rest of the teams fault, when the QB throws balls right into the arms of players for the other teams. Other players on the team have been benched this season. Why should the QB position have immunity, especially when the starter is having difficulty moving the chains? There has been quite a bit of the season that has played out, and the light still hasn't turned on.

                          Personally, I don't believe that the starter will get benched. It hasn't happened so far and I can't see it happening against Vandy. The 2nd string QB might be lucky to get the in and play in the 4th quarter in the gimme game. Other than that, the coaching staff seems satisfied to live and die with their choice they have made at the start of the season. I don't see the 2nd stringer getting any PT against Vandy or the UL game.

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                          • johnkyblue
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 4418

                            #28
                            Drew Barker had played... he's thrown an interception even....

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                            • Matt Dillon
                              Administrator
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 49617

                              #29
                              Originally posted by boomdaddy
                              It's not the rest of the teams fault, when the QB throws balls right into the arms of players for the other teams. Other players on the team have been benched this season. Why should the QB position have immunity, especially when the starter is having difficulty moving the chains? There has been quite a bit of the season that has played out, and the light still hasn't turned on.

                              Personally, I don't believe that the starter will get benched. It hasn't happened so far and I can't see it happening against Vandy. The 2nd string QB might be lucky to get the in and play in the 4th quarter in the gimme game. Other than that, the coaching staff seems satisfied to live and die with their choice they have made at the start of the season. I don't see the 2nd stringer getting any PT against Vandy or the UL game.

                              While John seems to be quite knowledgeable, when it comes to fb, he doesn't have any credibility, with me, when it comes to discussing Towles. They're related somehow.
                              Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                              • 40bill
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 8451

                                #30
                                The offensive line isn't strong enough to hold for Towles skill set...the longer sideline routes and downfield. Give Barker a shot and see if he has a quicker release and can somehow get this offense moving so an outgunned defense can stay off the field some.

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