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  • lotsaloanstoo
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 34

    #1

    UK & The SEC East

    I like UK football’s chances going forward this year in the SEC East. At the first bye week, Kentucky, at 56 points, has scored the 3rd-most points in the division, while giving up 49 points, which is the 3rd-fewest points in the division. This corresponds to UK finding itself in 3rd place in the SEC East at 2-1 in the conference, including two wins over SEC East rivals that UK doesn’t usually beat.

    I realize that there are a lot of inconsistencies on UK’s offensive side of the ball, but the bottom line is that they are 2-1 in SEC East rival games against teams that they usually lose to. If the trend holds, Mark Stoops will have climbed three rungs up the SEC East pecking order, with even greater talent and experience on both sides of the ball over the next two years.

    As 35 years of watching and supporting UK Football proves, building a winner out of a perpetual cellar-dweller is a slow slog. However, the talent within the UK Football Program is improved, the player development is demonstrably improved, and the results are starting to become evident. Closing out 2-1 in our division against Georgia (2-1), Tennessee (0-2), and Vanderbilt (0-2) guarantees UK a 3rd-place finish in the SEC East, and with a couple of fortuitious losses from Georgia gives UK a puncher’s chance at 2nd in the SEC East without even having to beat Georgia. UK football is on the rise.

    I know, I know, I know. This team is giving us all heartburn and creating the potential for fan heart attacks. I also realize that we sat at 4-1 last year too, albeit without the 2-1 record in conference wins. However, halfway in to Mark Stoops' 3rd season on the field and well into Stoops' fourth round of recruiting, I think that it's obvious at this point that the coaching talent has improved as well. Sitting tied for 2nd in the SEC East halfway through the third season of your first head coaching stint is a situation that Coach Stoops can be proud of, and should serve as proper confirmation and motivation for Coach Stoops to believe that what he is building is on the right track, and that, perhaps, these dark, ominous clouds hovering over the UK Football Program are finally... mercifully... parting.

  • Blue Heaven
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 6283

    #2
    Excellent post. Post more often.
    Isaiah 5:20

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    • lotsaloanstoo
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2015
      • 34

      #3
      Originally posted by Blue Heaven
      Excellent post. Post more often.
      Thanks Blue. I can't say that the product on the field has been completely entertaining and/or exciting to watch, but at this point I believe that Kentucky's much-needed improvement in recruiting and player development has finally arrived, and all the credit has to go to Mark Stoops for putting the pieces of this puzzle together.

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      • Spiritof96
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 13503

        #4
        Originally posted by Blue Heaven
        Excellent post. Post more often.
        Lol! I concur.
        Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
        ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
        Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
        No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
        RIP: Charlie Munger​

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        • lotsaloanstoo
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2015
          • 34

          #5
          Originally posted by Spiritof96

          Lol! I concur.
          Sorry about my lack of posts. I had hundreds on here before. I've been very busy lately and don't get to chat much these days.

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          • johnkyblue
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 4418

            #6
            Life > internet always.

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            • Brother_Vol
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 455

              #7
              "halfway through the third season of your first head coaching stint is a situation that Coach Stoops can be proud of"

              Man I wish I could say this about Jones right now... There's no doubt that we're seeing a different UK football team right now. Not real flashy but you can't doubt the overall resolve of the team.

              Good post
              Wish that I was on ol Rocky Top

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              • Lighthouse
                Gone But Never Forgotten
                • Oct 2014
                • 35962

                #8
                Great post and very insightful. I don't recognize your name from the past, but glad you're back.
                John 3:3

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                • SBCatMan
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 1765

                  #9
                  I know its crying over spilt milk, but that Florida game is becoming a real killer. With the inevitable cannibalization that takes place in the SEC, the East could have been there for the taking -- even without beating UGA.

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                  • gerntz
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 646

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lotsaloanstoo
                    I like UK football’s chances going forward this year in the SEC East. ..... the bottom line is that they are 2-1 in SEC East rival games against teams that they usually lose to. If the trend holds, Mark Stoops will have climbed three rungs up the SEC East pecking order, with even greater talent and experience on both sides of the ball over the next two years.

                    Closing out 2-1 in our division against Georgia (2-1), Tennessee (0-2), and Vanderbilt (0-2) guarantees UK a 3rd-place finish in the SEC East, and with a couple of fortuitious losses from Georgia gives UK a puncher’s chance at 2nd in the SEC East without even having to beat Georgia. UK football is on the rise.

                    I also realize that we sat at 4-1 last year too, albeit without the 2-1 record in conference wins. However, halfway in to Mark Stoops' 3rd season on the field and well into Stoops' fourth round of recruiting, I think that it's obvious at this point that the coaching talent has improved as well. Sitting tied for 2nd in the SEC East halfway through the third season of your first head coaching .
                    I'm optimistic also & that we've improved & are getting better each year. Yes, this year's 4-1 is better than last year's 4-1. Stoops is doing great.

                    Several points:

                    - Without beating AU & MSU, going 2-1 against East opponents doesn't guarantee 3rd in East. We'd be only 4-4. We need a win in at least one of those two games. 5-3 likely gets 3rd.
                    - I doubt strongly we can win on road at GA & if not, GA surely will finish ahead of us in East. Also given that, 2-1 in last three East games requires beating TN. Maybe. Maybe not. Their talent is better than their record imo.
                    - We're not halfway into the season. The AU game will be & will set the tone for the 2nd half imo. I think TN is better than AU so a win against AU is a near must imo for a highly successful (8-4+) season.


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                    • VirginiaBlue
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 211

                      #11
                      If we have a ghost of a chance at winning the East, we need to pull for MO and the Ugly Orange (sorry, Brother Vol) this weekend, and every UF and UGA opponent for the rest of the year. The first tie-breaker is head-to-head, the second is record within the division. So even if we won them all but take the likely loss to UGA, no chance unless UF and UGA lose 3 apiece.

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                      • Brother_Vol
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 455

                        #12
                        Originally posted by VirginiaBlue
                        If we have a ghost of a chance at winning the East, we need to pull for MO and the Ugly Orange (sorry, Brother Vol) this weekend, and every UF and UGA opponent for the rest of the year. The first tie-breaker is head-to-head, the second is record within the division. So even if we won them all but take the likely loss to UGA, no chance unless UF and UGA lose 3 apiece.

                        Lol I'll take whatever I can get at the moment, Virginia
                        Wish that I was on ol Rocky Top

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                        • Uncle Dave
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 1979

                          #13
                          Fantastic post!!!!!

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                          • lotsaloanstoo
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 34

                            #14
                            Originally posted by gerntz
                            I'm optimistic also & that we've improved & are getting better each year. Yes, this year's 4-1 is better than last year's 4-1. Stoops is doing great.

                            Several points:

                            - Without beating AU & MSU, going 2-1 against East opponents doesn't guarantee 3rd in East. We'd be only 4-4. We need a win in at least one of those two games. 5-3 likely gets 3rd.
                            - I doubt strongly we can win on road at GA & if not, GA surely will finish ahead of us in East. Also given that, 2-1 in last three East games requires beating TN. Maybe. Maybe not. Their talent is better than their record imo.
                            - We're not halfway into the season. The AU game will be & will set the tone for the 2nd half imo. I think TN is better than AU so a win against AU is a near must imo for a highly successful (8-4+) season.

                            I checked and gerntz's math is correct, so most of my post is factually incorrect, which means that I'm basically a homer and I write much better than I can count

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                            • RV
                              Administrator
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 1619

                              #15
                              Originally posted by gerntz
                              I'm optimistic also & that we've improved & are getting better each year. Yes, this year's 4-1 is better than last year's 4-1. Stoops is doing great.

                              Several points:

                              - Without beating AU & MSU, going 2-1 against East opponents doesn't guarantee 3rd in East. We'd be only 4-4. We need a win in at least one of those two games. 5-3 likely gets 3rd.
                              - I doubt strongly we can win on road at GA & if not, GA surely will finish ahead of us in East. Also given that, 2-1 in last three East games requires beating TN. Maybe. Maybe not. Their talent is better than their record imo.
                              - We're not halfway into the season. The AU game will be & will set the tone for the 2nd half imo. I think TN is better than AU so a win against AU is a near must imo for a highly successful (8-4+) season.
                              As bad as I hate to say this, it appears you are correct in all points.

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