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  • Los Gatos
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 1690

    #31
    Originally posted by Lighthouse

    True we had 3 and 3 got hurt. But we have 8 total QB's on the roster which means they all have at least played QB in HS. I have no idea if they are all still on campus, playing on special teams, red shirting or on the practice squad. As a former coach and referee I understand what goes on at practice and coaches are much better at deciding who plays than I am. I just hope somebody else is taking snaps.
    Given our recent success in recruiting QBs from the JC and transfer portal, I question why we should continue to recruit "projects" at QB. Can anyone thing of a "project" QB who played meaningful downs at UK? Seems like we would be better off using the scholarship for a JC/transfer instead.

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    • Lighthouse
      Gone But Never Forgotten
      • Oct 2014
      • 35962

      #32
      Originally posted by surveyor

      I understand. I was answering the general question of why, with other backups, they aren't getting a shot at starting.
      Exactly. Maybe they are being looked at.
      John 3:3

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      • surveyor
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 14474

        #33
        Originally posted by Lighthouse

        Exactly. Maybe they are being looked at.
        Likely. But it's perfectly reasonable that they wouldn't have enough (or any) reps to be considered in place of Smith with an injury. Bowden's the logical choice in that regard.
        Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.

        Clint Eastwood

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        • Sean
          Administrator
          • Oct 2014
          • 861

          #34
          I have a lot of trouble excusing the state of the team right now. Bowden at QB might work well but you also lose a very good receiver in the process. Unless he can pass to himself.

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          • surveyor
            Administrator
            • Oct 2014
            • 14474

            #35
            Originally posted by Sean
            I have a lot of trouble excusing the state of the team right now. Bowden at QB might work well but you also lose a very good receiver in the process. Unless he can pass to himself.
            I can give em a bit of a pass considering Wilson's injury was unexpected and Smith's injuries were over the last two games. With those two getting most all of the reps, there was never going to be someone immediately available in the event both were suddenly out of commission. Wood is listed third (now second) on the depth chart and only practiced last year, but not getting many reps with the starters because Gunnar and Wilson were getting those reps. Problem is, all the remaining QBs but Wood and Langhi are freshmen.

            I think the only reason Bowden gets the nod is his reps in the wildcat formation in practice.
            Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.

            Clint Eastwood

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            • Sean
              Administrator
              • Oct 2014
              • 861

              #36
              Originally posted by surveyor

              I can give em a bit of a pass considering Wilson's injury was unexpected and Smith's injuries were over the last two games. With those two getting most all of the reps, there was never going to be someone immediately available in the event both were suddenly out of commission. Wood is listed third (now second) on the depth chart and only practiced last year, but not getting many reps with the starters because Gunnar and Wilson were getting those reps. Problem is, all the remaining QBs but Wood and Langhi are freshmen.

              I think the only reason Bowden gets the nod is his reps in the wildcat formation in practice.
              I hate the wildcat! I'm obviously just an arm chair coach but man if you are going to drop some games it would seem like getting a freshman some reps would be at least a good use of the cards that have been dealt.

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              • surveyor
                Administrator
                • Oct 2014
                • 14474

                #37
                Originally posted by Sean

                I hate the wildcat! I'm obviously just an arm chair coach but man if you are going to drop some games it would seem like getting a freshman some reps would be at least a good use of the cards that have been dealt.
                I agree on the wildcat. I think they're dealing with the cards they're dealt as pragmatically as possible. It's also possible that we might see Wood or Langhi in on a few plays, too, especially if Smith isn't sufficiently healed after the bye week.
                Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.

                Clint Eastwood

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                • Sean
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 861

                  #38
                  Originally posted by surveyor

                  I agree on the wildcat. I think they're dealing with the cards they're dealt as pragmatically as possible. It's also possible that we might see Wood or Langhi in on a few plays, too, especially if Smith isn't sufficiently healed after the bye week.
                  That would be good to see.

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                  • 40bill
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 8451

                    #39
                    Could be the talking heads at KSR are more right than wrong. Sit Smith through Arkansas, sit him out of Georgia (hate it or not that's pretty much a given L) then that gives him four weeks to rest before Mizzou.

                    it is what it is, whether I agree, understand or like it. Quarterbacks 1,2, and preseason 3 are out. Apparently Wood just isntbrecovered enough to run the option even.

                    kick back, cheer, hope for the best and see what shakes .

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                    • fastkat
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 629

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Sean
                      I have a lot of trouble excusing the state of the team right now. Bowden at QB might work well but you also lose a very good receiver in the process. Unless he can pass to himself.
                      I see a lot of people saying this but how can he catch a pass if we have no one to throw it to him? Right now playing QB might be the only way we can get the ball in his hands and our best chance of winning.

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                      • Spiritof96
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 13503

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Los Gatos

                        Given our recent success in recruiting QBs from the JC and transfer portal, I question why we should continue to recruit "projects" at QB. Can anyone thing of a "project" QB who played meaningful downs at UK? Seems like we would be better off using the scholarship for a JC/transfer instead.
                        Josh Allen was a project...
                        Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                        ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                        Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                        No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                        RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                        • Lighthouse
                          Gone But Never Forgotten
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 35962

                          #42
                          Originally posted by surveyor

                          I can give em a bit of a pass considering Wilson's injury was unexpected and Smith's injuries were over the last two games. With those two getting most all of the reps, there was never going to be someone immediately available in the event both were suddenly out of commission. Wood is listed third (now second) on the depth chart and only practiced last year, but not getting many reps with the starters because Gunnar and Wilson were getting those reps. Problem is, all the remaining QBs but Wood and Langhi are freshmen.

                          I think the only reason Bowden gets the nod is his reps in the wildcat formation in practice.
                          I'm sure this is the thinking by the coaches. I remember this kind of situation a few years back and we used a tight end at QB and beat UT I think, so using someone green might work for a game.
                          John 3:3

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                          • Los Gatos
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 1690

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Spiritof96

                            Josh Allen was a project...
                            He also was not a QB. Anyone have an example of a "project" QB who played meaningful downs at QB or even at different position.
                            Last edited by Los Gatos; 10-03-2019, 10:26 PM.

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                            • Spiritof96
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 13503

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Los Gatos

                              He also was not a QB. Anyone have an example of a "project" QB who played meaningful downs at QB or even at different position.
                              The position is irrelevant. A program has an incentive to take a flyer on a gifted player that might turn into something special. Especially when you are also trying to get that QB's 5 star team mate. (as was the case with Walker Wood)

                              At worst they play scout team at best they are Tom Brady. There is no reason not to, especially if you can still get three other good QBs. (Which we had)

                              Fan expectations around this issue are unreasonable IMO.
                              Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                              ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                              Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                              No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                              RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                              • 40bill
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 8451

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Spiritof96

                                The position is irrelevant. A program has an incentive to take a flyer on a gifted player that might turn into something special. Especially when you are also trying to get that QB's 5 star team mate. (as was the case with Walker Wood)

                                At worst they play scout team at best they are Tom Brady. There is no reason not to, especially if you can still get three other good QBs. (Which we had)

                                Fan expectations around this issue are unreasonable IMO.
                                Perhaps, but we will agree to disagree. Filling five slots with unusable players at the qb position is a head scratcher.
                                This is a situation where two legitimate backups transferred out to be able to play elsewhere, then a starter and two backups are injured.
                                losing five players at position is bizarre.
                                I don't see where it is unreasonable at all for a player to expect to have a chance to compete.

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