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  • Westtncat
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 2031

    #16
    Ok, bumping this thread for a minute. How many games in a row does UCF have to win to be considered? You can say their schedule is weak but isn't there just a bit of interest in seeing them play somebody? That winning streak includes a beat down of Auburn from the SEC too. Their toughest game this year was Memphis, they have to play again so things could change.

    Also if we had an 8 team playoff right now, the AP and the CFP poll are exactly the same. Tell me again why we need a committee?

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    • KevinHall
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 6857

      #17
      UCF lost their QB to a knee injury last weekend. We will see what kind of depth they have now. I'm all for them getting a shot myself. That's an impressive streak no matter who you have beaten. Like you said they did beat a good Auburn team last year. They might get pummeled but we will never know because the big boys won't schedule them. I think if you had an 8 team playoff they would certainly get a bid.
      Kentucky fan since 1971.

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      • Matt Dillon
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 49618

        #18
        Originally posted by KevinHall
        UCF lost their QB to a knee injury last weekend. We will see what kind of depth they have now. I'm all for them getting a shot myself. That's an impressive streak no matter who you have beaten. Like you said they did beat a good Auburn team last year. They might get pummeled but we will never know because the big boys won't schedule them. I think if you had an 8 team playoff they would certainly get a bid.
        This conversation reminds me of when Boise State was so good (they may still be, I don't keep up with them) and had trouble getting the big boys to play them.
        Philippians 4:11-4:13

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        • 40bill
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 8451

          #19
          Betting UCF gets Florida in the Peach.

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          • surveyor
            Administrator
            • Oct 2014
            • 14474

            #20
            Good read by Dan Wetzel. Makes perfect sense. None of the current conference championships played this weekend will mean a thing. Further, it will result in even more money for the school conferences in this scenario.

            You don't need to expand the current college football playoff. You just need to reform the postseason into something that looks like it was designed by someone with a functioning brain.


            Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.

            Clint Eastwood

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            • Westtncat
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 2031

              #21
              Originally posted by surveyor
              Good read by Dan Wetzel. Makes perfect sense. None of the current conference championships played this weekend will mean a thing. Further, it will result in even more money for the school conferences in this scenario.

              https://sports.yahoo.com/college-foo...005615013.html
              If Georgia beat Alabama it would mean a lot! I do get his point tho and I agree. His scenario for an 8 team playoff is awesome!
              Last edited by Westtncat; 11-28-2018, 09:40 AM.

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              • Spiritof96
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 13503

                #22
                Originally posted by surveyor
                Good read by Dan Wetzel. Makes perfect sense. None of the current conference championships played this weekend will mean a thing. Further, it will result in even more money for the school conferences in this scenario.

                You don't need to expand the current college football playoff. You just need to reform the postseason into something that looks like it was designed by someone with a functioning brain.

                That was a great read. I'm in.

                I wonder what our schedule would look like year in and year out if we didn't have east and west divisions?
                Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                • Westtncat
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 2031

                  #23
                  The Bulldogs and Crimson Tide have been two of the top four teams in the country. If that's not reason enough, including them this season both might actually inspire postseason change.

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                  • 40bill
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 8451

                    #24
                    Tonight it looks like Bama, Clemson, Notre Dame and....
                    Oklahoma. Ohio State will whine and cry, but Oklahoma comes back and beats the only team to have beaten them.

                    I will be a big Bama and Clemson fan in the Semis.

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                    • Old School
                      Administrator
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 2218

                      #25
                      Once again, we see why a four team playoff is plenty.

                      To most people, it's clear who has established themselves as the best team in college football this year: Alabama. If the season ended today, Alabama would be the national champion, and few would argue about it except for a few old codgers who think some NCAA rule grants some sort of perpetual affirmative action preference to Notre Dame. Some people would point to the fact that Notre Dame and Clemson also have undefeated records. You have one undefeated team with what is clearly the best body of work. You have two other undefeated teams with lesser schedules but also an undefeated record. Those three teams make the playoff, and frankly, that's enough. I'd be satisfied with having Clemson play Notre Dame, and the winner play Alabama for the national championship. But we have a four team playoff, so there will be squabbling about whether Ohio State, Oklahoma or even Georgia deserves that fourth spot. Whichever team is #4 will not have any claim to being the best team in the country right now or any claim that they're #1. 3 is enough this year; 4 is almost always enough. A four team playoff is ideal. An eight team playoff would merely push that squabbling over which undeserving team gets in from being about the #4 spot most years to being about the #4, #5, #6, #7 and #8 spots most years.

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                      • Old School
                        Administrator
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 2218

                        #26
                        Originally posted by KevinHall
                        UCF lost their QB to a knee injury last weekend. We will see what kind of depth they have now. I'm all for them getting a shot myself. That's an impressive streak no matter who you have beaten. Like you said they did beat a good Auburn team last year. They might get pummeled but we will never know because the big boys won't schedule them. I think if you had an 8 team playoff they would certainly get a bid.
                        Mount Union is 13-0. Should they also be in the College Football Playoff?

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                        • Westtncat
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 2031

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Old School

                          Mount Union is 13-0. Should they also be in the College Football Playoff?
                          By the same token should we skip the playoff and crown Alabama now? Absolutely not a case for 4 teams. You have 4 teams without a blemish on their record to start. You have two teams with one loss. and one team with two losses that is probably the second best team in the country. Crowning Alabama w hen you have three other undefeated teams is about the worst argument for having less teams that you have given so far.

                          If you still stand by the one loss should end your season then I have to completely disagree. Why is the fact that Alabama is favored dictating the decision to not have a playoff? Someone is favored in any sport each year.

                          There are more than 4 good teams out there. I think Alabama can beat them all too but let them play. Alabama was one bad decision from losing or at least tying in regulation. They arent unbeatable.

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                          • Old School
                            Administrator
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 2218

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Westtncat

                            By the same token should we skip the playoff and crown Alabama now? Absolutely not a case for 4 teams. You have 4 teams without a blemish on their record to start. You have two teams with one loss. and one team with two losses that is probably the second best team in the country. Crowning Alabama w hen you have three other undefeated teams is about the worst argument for having less teams that you have given so far.

                            If you still stand by the one loss should end your season then I have to completely disagree. Why is the fact that Alabama is favored dictating the decision to not have a playoff? Someone is favored in any sport each year.

                            There are more than 4 good teams out there. I think Alabama can beat them all too but let them play. Alabama was one bad decision from losing or at least tying in regulation. They arent unbeatable.
                            You didn't answer the question you quoted.

                            You're also making up things that weren't in my post. I said "If the season ended today, Alabama would be the national champion." I didn't say the regular season should end now, or Alabama should be the national champion now. Nothing anywhere in this thread is addressed by "Crowning Alabama when you have three other undefeated teams is about the worst argument for having less teams that you have given so far" or "Why is the fact that Alabama is favored dictating the decision to not have a playoff?'" and I don't know where that came from. What I pointed out was that, once again, four teams is enough, or more than enough. Whoever you pick as your fourth team doesn't have any claim to being the best team in the country right now, or any claim to being as deserving as the #1 team. Going to 8 teams is going to include at least 5 teams that don't have the same sort of claim as the #1 team will.

                            "There are more than 4 good teams out there." Sure; we could say that 32 college football teams were "good" this year. Should there be a 32 team playoff?

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                            • 40bill
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 8451

                              #29
                              One announcer pointed out last night that Bama/Georgia and Texas/Out volume 2 we're playoff games.
                              this year that's correct....last year Alabama lost to Auburn in the Iron Bowl.

                              Money talks . Somebody come up with a billion dollar football tourney and things will get refigured.

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                              • KevinHall
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 6857

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Old School

                                Mount Union is 13-0. Should they also be in the College Football Playoff?
                                No they aren't FBS. What a stupid question!
                                Kentucky fan since 1971.

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