QB argument thread

[CurlyCat]

Old School comes through and knocks it out of the park.

You've gotta ride with Terry Wilson, in my opinion. He's flawed but if he's gonna be the guy going forward, he's gotta get reps. That's how he will get better. Last night was the first time that I felt that he was truly intimidated by the moment, and when you consider he went and played well at The Swamp, it's saying something.

Well... So considering he's got the reps and hasn't improved, I just can't go there. When you have a rare running back like Benny Snell, you can hide all kinds of quarterback flaws. But Terry Wilson is super flawed. He takes way to much time in the pocket deciding pass options and just runs when he can't make up his mind. I just don't think he can make decisions on the fly quickly enough.

BTW, always great to be back on WCN to vent my frustrations.

[KCKUKFan]

Well... So considering he's got the reps and hasn't improved, I just can't go there. When you have a rare running back like Benny Snell, you can hide all kinds of quarterback flaws. But Terry Wilson is super flawed. He takes way to much time in the pocket deciding pass options and just runs when he can't make up his mind. I just don't think he can make decisions on the fly quickly enough.

BTW, always great to be back on WCN to vent my frustrations.

He'll never figure it out if he doesn't play. And last night was the first time he was so horrendous as to cost us a game. We're 5-1 with him starting, and very well could be 6-0.

The most popular guy on the team is the backup QB, but there's no guarantee that Gunnar Hoak would be an improvement. The coaches see them everyday, and my guess is that if they thought Hoak would be an improvement, he'd be starting.

[fastkat]

This isn't about who the QB should be, last nights loss is about the fact that we went away from what got us to 5-0. We've run the ball down the throat of some good lines. We came out on our first possession ran eight plays, we threw five passes and one sack and Benny carried twice. We came out scared of their defense and if I was the DC at TAMU I would have told my players when they came off the field that UK was scared of us. There's no excuse for one of the best players in the country to only carry the ball thirteen times. He averaged 4.6 yards per carry so it wasn't about him not being effective we played scared.

[Matt Dillon]

He'll never figure it out if he doesn't play. And last night was the first time he was so horrendous as to cost us a game. We're 5-1 with him starting, and very well could be 6-0.

This is just a hunch, but I suspect our being 5-1 has a lot more to do with the oline, Benny Snell and the def. than Wilson's solid play.

[Blue Heaven]

I thought Wilson looked unsure of himself when he did take off running last night. A few times I thought he went to the ground when he could have possibly gained a few more yards. I thought it was obvious that A&M's defense was in his head. The fact that Stoops questioned pulling him gives some credence to those fans like myself who was questioning Wilson all night long.

[KCKUKFan]

This is just a hunch, but I suspect our being 5-1 has a lot more to do with the oline, Benny Snell and the def. than Wilson's solid play.

Well, obviously.

I was just stating that last night was the first time that Wilson was so outwardly bad that he cost us the game. He's been decent to acceptable in every other game we've played.

[UK39]

Wilson isn't here to win games, his job is to not lose. Snell and the defense will win the games. He's a game manager not to turn it over or put them in 2nd and 3rd long. UK is 2nd in time of possession and Wilson has something to do with that.

It's not his fault Gran had a poor game plan, he's not ready to win compared to manage a game. 13 carries for the 2nd player in the conference (possible Heisman finalist) is inexcusable.

[Matt Dillon]

It's not his fault Gran had a poor game plan, he's not ready to win compared to manage a game. 13 carries for the 2nd player in the conference (possible Heisman finalist) is inexcusable.

I agree Gran didn't call a perfect game, but it wasn't coach Gran's fault Wilson took a sack at the most inopportune time instead of throwing the ball away. Nor was it coach Gran's fault Wilson slid to avoid being tackled when he was two yards short of a first down.

[40bill]

By the way, I hadn't said it...good to see you back Curly.

The first game, Hoak took over and drove the team....now, I agree...he's not Johnny Football either....but it gave Wilson some time on the bench to get the jitters out, look at what the defense was doing and clear his head.
I would have like see that tried.

Of course, Hoak could have taken one pass, got a pick six and I'd of been saying Wilson needed more time.

I think it telling....and really kind of surprising....that coach actually said they'd given thought of switching QBs. They must have seen even more they were concerned about than we did.....just hoping Terry could play his way out.

The early slide in OT after we watched Johnson play is kind of a shock to our systems I guess.

[UK39]

I agree Gran didn't call a perfect game, but it wasn't coach Gran's fault Wilson took a sack at the most inopportune time instead of throwing the ball away. Nor was it coach Gran's fault Wilson slid to avoid being tackled when he was two yards short of a first down.

Definitely, he didn't do his job in each situation and since little is required of him to take over games, moments like those are magnified. His awareness skills are lacking. I'm curious to see when teams stack 8 in the box to stop Snell how he responds.

[Matt Dillon]

Definitely, he didn't do his job in each situation and since little is required of him to take over games, moments like those are magnified. His awareness skills are lacking. I'm curious to see when teams stack 8 in the box to stop Snell how he responds.

It's interesting that you should mention the awareness thing. A friend and I were discussing the game, this morning, and he said the very same thing.

[40bill]

It kind of seems his mind is a step or half step behind the game...understandable for a guy that is more or less a frosh in his fifth SEC game.

I really think some of us got way too hyped up in Terry before he took his first snap. We were looking for sophomore Lamar Jackson....but we should have been anticipating a young unproven kid following one of the best quarterback leaders Ive seen
Awful big shoes to fill and expectations to live to.

Time for us all to see how remarkable Bennie, the O line and this defense truly are.

[Jload]

We NEED a passer not a runner back there at QB. If we are to ever beat ANY of the big boys in the SEC we need a guy that can make the clutch throw in the critical moment, not somebody trying to out run an SEC (NFL Caliber) linebacker, who is probably faster than he is. We need a Tim Couch, not saying Hoak is but I know Wilson isn’t. IMO you start Hoak and see what he can do, MUCH higher potential ceiling than you get with Wilson. Our receiver corps being so poor doesn’t help, ranked by experts last or next to last in conference. Maybe or hapless O-Coordinator will finally learn how to properly use the tight end, one can hope at least.

I can’t reiterate what I said then any louder. Houck needs to play, Wilson was exposed last night .

[Spiritof96]

I want better q.b. play but with Hoak I’m not sure you gain enough accuracy to make it worth giving up the run threat and deep shot on play action threat.

[UK39]

It's interesting that you should mention the awareness thing. A friend and I were discussing the game, this morning, and he said the very same thing.

Both of those situations, having the clock in your head saying I need to get rid of it or knowing where the marker and not knowing is lack of experience. Whether you're a true freshman, RS freshman, or a JUCO transfer unless you're the rare breed, that comes over time.

At this point, I would rather see more of a spread offense than the RPO. The RPO is too dependent on decision-making and ball security from the QB and that doesn't ay into Wilson's strengths.