Louisville signing day surprises...heavy favorite to bring home the trophy

[Old School]

Louisville had a couple of signing day surprises that put them in much better position to win the trophy...

...the Fulmer Cup.

QB Jawon Puff Puff Pass: possession of marijuana, driving without possessing a license, expired plate, blocking lane - all smart things to do when you have marijuana on you.

WR Traveon Samuel: 115 mph in 70 mph zone; speeding, racing.

The incidents were on January 6 and 22 but were only revealed right after signing day.

No word yet if Fulmer Cup points will be awarded for the shooting that involved two U of L players.

[bigblue4life]

Amazing how the Cardinals manage to minimize bad publicity. Two UL players shot nearly two months ago and still no suspects(?). The Louisville Cardinal Journal helps out a lot too, unlike the LHL which bird dogs UK at ever turn.

[boomdaddy]

It wasn't too long ago that a UK player from the Louisville area was caught with a 1/2 pound of weed and charged with a felony. I don't think UK fans should throw stones at UL.

I do agree that UL kind of owns the local press in their town and UK can't even get rid of Jerry Tipton from its local rag.

[Matt Dillon]

It wasn't too long ago that a UK player from the Louisville area was caught with a 1/2 pound of weed and charged with a felony. I don't think UK fans should throw stones at UL.

I agree, boomdaddy.

[Lighthouse]

It wasn't too long ago that a UK player from the Louisville area was caught with a 1/2 pound of weed and charged with a felony. I don't think UK fans should throw stones at UL.

I do agree that UL kind of owns the local press in their town and UK can't even get rid of Jerry Tipton from its local rag.

I don't think they are throwing stones because of the offenses, but pointing out the timing of the latest incidents.

[Old School]

It wasn't too long ago that a UK player from the Louisville area was caught with a 1/2 pound of weed and charged with a felony. I don't think UK fans should throw stones at UL.

I do agree that UL kind of owns the local press in their town and UK can't even get rid of Jerry Tipton from its local rag.

He was immediately dismissed from Kentucky's team after his arrest. I don't know if that happened at UL even with the player who knocked off a convenience store with a gun a few years ago.

The felony marijuana charges were eventually dismissed and he pled guilty to misdemeanors, but UK dismissed him after his arrest. By contrast, UL had an offensive lineman plead guilty to felony drug trafficking; he stayed on the team after the arrest and guilty plea, and started a game the Saturday after his guilty plea IIRC.

[40bill]

Louisville is a haven for lotta chances. I do remember our basketball team used to have the same rep....and likely deserved.

[boomdaddy]

A misdemeanor should be given a second chance. Kicking the kid out that had the felony posession, I agree with. I didn't keep up with the trial of the Louisville kid. How did he beat the felony charge if a half pound is a felony? Did the weight all of a sudden come up less that a half pound? It may eventually be legal in Kentucky 20 years down the road, but that doesn't help his case today. Anyway, that same kid kept getting into trouble and never seemed to get on the right path.

The young man that was kicked out of school because of the allegation of his ex GF was a travesty of justice.

I would like to see the hammer dropped on UL for the stripper deal, especially since that involved the asstistant coach paying for services and also happened on a campus dorm.

But, I do feel that athletes get treated 10 times worse than the general public and they shouldn't. I dont agree with drunk driving and endangering the loves of others. But, those in the general population don't lose their jobs because of it. If a player does it, the fans think they should never participate in sports again and that they should go sign up as a fry cook at a fast food place.

[Old School]

A misdemeanor should be given a second chance. Kicking the kid out that had the felony posession, I agree with. I didn't keep up with the trial of the Louisville kid. How did he beat the felony charge if a half pound is a felony? Did the weight all of a sudden come up less that a half pound? It may eventually be legal in Kentucky 20 years down the road, but that doesn't help his case today. Anyway, that same kid kept getting into trouble and never seemed to get on the right path.

Basically, possession over a certain amount allows for a legal presumption that it is trafficking, because the amount is so far past what would be considered likely for personal consumption. Apparently (based on his account; I haven't seen much else) it looks like he was allowed to plead guilty to misdemeanor possession and have the felony charge/charges dismissed. That's probably not uncommon for marijuana in situations like that.

But, I do feel that athletes get treated 10 times worse than the general public and they shouldn't. I dont agree with drunk driving and endangering the loves of others. But, those in the general population don't lose their jobs because of it. If a player does it, the fans think they should never participate in sports again and that they should go sign up as a fry cook at a fast food place.

In a lot of ways they get treated far better than the general public. When they do something stupid it gets more attention but that's not unfair given that they want people to pay to watch them perform, buy things marketed based on their team (or them), etc. There are plenty of people other than athletes who lose jobs for driving drunk: pilots, truck drivers, bus drivers, probably garbage truck drivers, police officers and others in law enforcement or corrections...a lot of others in management and elsewhere often lose jobs for driving drunk because it is a pretty serious reflection on their judgment and shareholders and others often conclude that if someone doesn't have better judgment than to drive drunk, their judgment problems are significant enough to doubt that they should be entrusted to run an enterprise. Is it unfair for fans to expect athletes to act sensibly and decently and to be less likely or willing to show up or shell out money for tickets or jerseys or whatever for people who beat up their girlfriends or drive drunk or recklessly or steal or get involved in assaults or get busted with meth or whatever else? It's their time and money; can you fault them for not wanting to share it with people who disregard others or the law like that?

[Old School]

More Fulmer Cup points on the way.

Before the Citrus Bowl, Petrino told the press that his team had a no gun policy.

One of his players was at that time facing a felony charge related to a gun.

He was suspended this week.

This one also didn't see the light of day until national signing day.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2017/02/06/louisville-football-player-alphonso-carter-suspended-/97360050/

[uglyduckling]

Basically, possession over a certain amount allows for a legal presumption that it is trafficking, because the amount is so far past what would be considered likely for personal consumption. Apparently (based on his account; I haven't seen much else) it looks like he was allowed to plead guilty to misdemeanor possession and have the felony charge/charges dismissed. That's probably not uncommon for marijuana in situations like that.



In a lot of ways they get treated far better than the general public. When they do something stupid it gets more attention but that's not unfair given that they want people to pay to watch them perform, buy things marketed based on their team (or them), etc. There are plenty of people other than athletes who lose jobs for driving drunk: pilots, truck drivers, bus drivers, probably garbage truck drivers, police officers and others in law enforcement or corrections...a lot of others in management and elsewhere often lose jobs for driving drunk because it is a pretty serious reflection on their judgment and shareholders and others often conclude that if someone doesn't have better judgment than to drive drunk, their judgment problems are significant enough to doubt that they should be entrusted to run an enterprise. Is it unfair for fans to expect athletes to act sensibly and decently and to be less likely or willing to show up or shell out money for tickets or jerseys or whatever for people who beat up their girlfriends or drive drunk or recklessly or steal or get involved in assaults or get busted with meth or whatever else? It's their time and money; can you fault them for not wanting to share it with people who disregard others or the law like that?

I believe it's trafficking if it's over a certain amount but it has to be in more than one bag, container, etc.

[boomdaddy]

I do not think it is fair to hold a teenage athlete to a higher standard than the rest of society. That is where I differ from some fans. I do not agree with the press or fan sites parading dirty laundry of players and acting like they, themselves, are saints and how they are shocked and appalled. It is so hypocritical.

[Old School]

I do not think it is fair to hold a teenage athlete to a higher standard than the rest of society. That is where I differ from some fans. I do not agree with the press or fan sites parading dirty laundry of players and acting like they, themselves, are saints and how they are shocked and appalled. It is so hypocritical.

The rest of society is held to the same standard. The penal code applies to them too.

[boomdaddy]

The rest of society is held to the same standard. The penal code applies to them too.

I Am not sure why you seem to have misunderstood the point that I was making. No statement was made regarding the penal system. The unfairness is not with the court system. The unfairness is with the media and a portion of the fan base that holds athletes to a higher standard than the rest of society. I apologize if I did not make myself clear. Athletes in some people's eyes are supposed to be saints that drink milk and are in bed by 9pm, after they have done their home work and said their prayers. It appears some fans have athletes mixed with that show little house on the prarie. Can I stay up 15 minutes longer Pa? No, little girl. Get your butt to bed before you get a whuppin

[Old School]

Athletes in some people's eyes are supposed to be saints that drink milk and are in bed by 9pm, after they have done their home work and said their prayers

I've never met anyone who expressed that, nor seen anything like that posted here.