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  • Blue Heaven
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 6283

    #1

    Happy Kentucky Derby Day

    Not a big horse racing guy but LOVE to watch the races. It's been 10 years since Mine That Bird won in one the most improbable Derby victories ever. There is something about this race that gets me emotional. Horses in general do that to me. Just beautiful animals.
    Isaiah 5:20
  • Spiritof96
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 13503

    #2
    How did you like that one?

    I’m sorry to see the best horse and an amazing, possible generationally transcendent talent lose that way.

    I’ll leave it to horse racing aficionados to assert whether the call was right or wrong.

    I would hate to go around calling myself a winner when I got beat by a length and a half.
    Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
    ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
    Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
    No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
    RIP: Charlie Munger​

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    • Blue Heaven
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 6283

      #3
      Imagine the range of emotions for those who had bet on those two horses. A good friend of mine is a massive horse guy and he agreed with the call. Another friend of mine won $1200 because of the foul. And yet another friend would've won the exacta. I am no horse expert but I thought the call was pretty obvious. Had War of Will clipped the heels of Maximum Security a lot of horses would've fallen like dominoes. They got it right IMO. Still, it was the craziest Derby ever.
      Isaiah 5:20

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      • Matt Dillon
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 49618

        #4
        It's difficult, for race observers, to make the correct call. The stewards see a different replay view than what's shown on tv, so I imagine it was the correct call.
        Philippians 4:11-4:13

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        • TrueblueCATfan
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 16272

          #5
          The track was a mess and I have said this for years.....there are too many horses in the field....very lucky that no horse or jockey was hurt yesterday

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          • Lighthouse
            Gone But Never Forgotten
            • Oct 2014
            • 35962

            #6
            As an official, I had to make calls that effected who won. Yesterday was the same thing and there was a foul, so when the foul was obvious they had to go by the rules. However in the case for most sports a foul or violation is the only thing considered when penalizing the offender. I'm no where near a horse racing steward but from what I hear, Stewards must take into consideration if the foul was a factor in who won that race. IMO, the foul was correct but the penalty was not. Without the foul there might have been another winner, but it certainly would not have been Country House.
            John 3:3

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            • Dwight Schrute
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 18716

              #7
              People who know more about horse racing than me say it was the right call, so I have no problem with the steward disqualifying Maximum Security. I don’t like awarding the Derby trophy to Country House, though. I really don’t like the Country House entourage celebrating as if they won like Maximum Security. Winning on a technicality and going forward like nothing happen doesn’t sit well with me.

              At this point, if Maximum Security comes out and wins the Preakness and Belmont in convincing fashion, Country House’s people are gonna look like heels.

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              • Blue Heaven
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 6283

                #8
                True, but let's not act like Country House didn't run a good race. He was in the money regardless. Pretty impressive for a 65-1 longshot.
                Isaiah 5:20

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                • Matt Dillon
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 49618

                  #9
                  Here's a different view, this may be the one the stewards used to make their decision.

                  https://twitter.com/CarsoniPH/status...28240144457730
                  Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                  • Spiritof96
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 13503

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dwight Schrute
                    People who know more about horse racing than me say it was the right call, so I have no problem with the steward disqualifying Maximum Security. I don’t like awarding the Derby trophy to Country House, though. I really don’t like the Country House entourage celebrating as if they won like Maximum Security. Winning on a technicality and going forward like nothing happen doesn’t sit well with me.

                    At this point, if Maximum Security comes out and wins the Preakness and Belmont in convincing fashion, Country House’s people are gonna look like heels.
                    I can accept that it was the "correct" call in the context of their rules. I do not accept Country House as a winner of anything other than the biggest crybaby rule gaming scum of the year. The foul had no impact on the slower "Country House's failure to be the fastest horse. Literally the "first place loser".

                    As a fan of Kentucky, horse racing generally and triple crown races, I find it truly disappointing and a black-eye on the sport, the event, and the state. Foul or not, everyone knows who won that race and I'm inclined to agree with Baffert.

                    Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                    ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                    Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                    No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                    RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                    • Lighthouse
                      Gone But Never Forgotten
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 35962

                      #11
                      I agree.
                      John 3:3

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