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  • surveyor
    Administrator
    • Oct 2014
    • 14474

    #1

    RIP Chris Cornell



    Loved listening to Soundgarden and Audioslave.


    Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.

    Clint Eastwood
  • KCKUKFan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 14228

    #2
    Never liked Soundgarden's music quite as much as their Seattle brethren (Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots), but Cornell arguably had the best voice of any of those bands. Superunknown had great highlights, but it was way too long and uneven. Badmotorfinger was good, too, but a little raw for my tastes.

    It's crazy; there are barely any of those 90s grung/alternative frontmen that are still alive. Corgan, Vedder... and crickets.

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    • surveyor
      Administrator
      • Oct 2014
      • 14474

      #3
      I always thought it would be an interesting marriage if Cornell joined Van Halen. Take Alex and Eddie in a new direction and that could have been some amazing music.
      Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.

      Clint Eastwood

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      • KCKUKFan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 14228

        #4
        Originally posted by surveyor
        I always thought it would be an interesting marriage if Cornell joined Van Halen. Take Alex and Eddie in a new direction and that could have been some amazing music.
        I'm not sure if Cornell would've been a proper fit for Van Halen, whose music was always naturally more upbeat and positive, even when the instrumentals were heavy.

        Soundgarden, and by extension Audioslave, owed more to bands like Sabbath.

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        • surveyor
          Administrator
          • Oct 2014
          • 14474

          #5
          Originally posted by KCKUKFan

          I'm not sure if Cornell would've been a proper fit for Van Halen, whose music was always naturally more upbeat and positive, even when the instrumentals were heavy.
          That's why I thought it would be an interesting combination. Let him guide them into another direction to see what comes of it.
          Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.

          Clint Eastwood

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #6
            Cornell had reinvented himself as kind of a singer/songwriter in the last three or four years. They were playing cuts from his solo album on WFPK pretty recently.

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            • George
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 10355

              #7
              Originally posted by KCKUKFan
              Never liked Soundgarden's music quite as much as their Seattle brethren (Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots), but Cornell arguably had the best voice of any of those bands. Superunknown had great highlights, but it was way too long and uneven. Badmotorfinger was good, too, but a little raw for my tastes.

              It's crazy; there are barely any of those 90s grung/alternative frontmen that are still alive. Corgan, Vedder... and crickets.
              Soundgarden was/is probably my favorite of the era (unless you lump TOOL in with that group). I love AIC and Nirvana, too, but I was never much of a Pearl Jam fan, and I always thought STP was the Poison of the Grunge days. For my money, it's tough to find a better record than Superunknown. It's one of the few albums I can listen to from beginning to end without getting bored or skipping a track. I agree that Badmotorfinger was raw, but I like a lot of that album, too. "Slaves and Bulldozers" is a personal favorite.

              FWIW, Frank Black, King Buzzo and Mark Lanegan are still kicking. And even though I wouldn't call either of these two "Grunge," Trent Reznor and Maynard James Keenan are still making music on a regular basis.

              Regardless, the Cornell news is very disappointing. He was an all-timer and remains an all-time personal favorite.

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              • George
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 10355

                #8
                Originally posted by KCKUKFan

                I'm not sure if Cornell would've been a proper fit for Van Halen, whose music was always naturally more upbeat and positive, even when the instrumentals were heavy.

                Soundgarden, and by extension Audioslave, owed more to bands like Sabbath.
                Agreed.

                And I try to forget that Audioslave ever existed.

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                • Joneslab
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 39604

                  #9
                  My favorite grunge band was Live. Still think Throwing Copper is an album that holds up and doesn't feel as dated as some of that stuff.

                  Nirvana's Unplugged in New York is probably the opus of the era though. I also liked Screaming Trees a whole lot.

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                  • George
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 10355

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Will Lavender
                    My favorite grunge band was Live. Still think Throwing Copper is an album that holds up and doesn't feel as dated as some of that stuff.

                    Nirvana's Unplugged in New York is probably the opus of the era though. I also liked Screaming Trees a whole lot.
                    My first concert of my choosing was Live and Counting Crows at an amphitheater in Knoxville.

                    Unplugged... is on constant rotation in my iTunes library. Just a phenomenal album. And if you like Screaming Trees, do you like QOTSA? Lanegan has more or less been a member since that band's inception.

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                    • Joneslab
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 39604

                      #11
                      I haven't listened to much Queens of the Stone Age. Had their first (I think it was their first) album a few years ago when they had a song on rotation on the Louisville rock station.

                      Not a big metal fan...but maybe they're really not metal? I don't know a whole lot about them.

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                      • George
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 10355

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Will Lavender
                        I haven't listened to much Queens of the Stone Age. Had their first (I think it was their first) album a few years ago when they had a song on rotation on the Louisville rock station.

                        Not a big metal fan...but maybe they're really not metal? I don't know a whole lot about them.
                        They aren't. A lot of their stuff would fall on the heavier side of Rock, but they're more psychedelic, experimental, low-key Stoner Rock than anything. They like to get weird.

                        Their heaviest work was Songs for the Deaf, on which Dave Grohl provided some of the heaviest drumming you'll hear outside of full-blown Metal. You'll definitely find some heavy tracks on their albums (especially that one), but I wouldn't define them as Metal. If you like Screaming Trees, there's no reason why you wouldn't like QOTSA, too.

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                        • KCKUKFan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 14228

                          #13
                          Downes, say what you will about thee rest of their discography, but Purple by STP is too fun, varied and awesome to come from a "Poison of grunge." Might be my favorite album, front to back, of the grunge era.
                          Last edited by KCKUKFan; 05-18-2017, 02:05 PM.

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                          • KCKUKFan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 14228

                            #14
                            And Queens of the Stone Age is the best working band that nobody ever talks about.

                            hate Tool. Like... actively despise that band. I have friends that rave and rave and rave about their technical brilliance and maynards songwriting. They even dragged me to a Tool show. I have never been so bored in my life. Dreadfully sludgy, melody-less, soulless crap. Unpopular opinion, I know.

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                            • Joneslab
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 39604

                              #15
                              For some reason I never got into Stone Temple Pilots, and I was in high school right at the peak of their popularity. One of the only big bands of that era whose albums I never owned.

                              Had a Tool record. Liked it but I never had much angst as a kid so I don't think I quite got what they were doing entirely.

                              In college my tastes moved toward pop/café rock. Listened to a lot of Toad the Wet Sprocket, which I still say was a great band. Collective Soul's third record was a staple. Counting Crows, etc. I love that scene in Clueless where Paul Rudd is driving and Alicia Silverstone keeps ragging him about how depressing his music is.

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